Proving a complex Force derivation with CalcConfused

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The discussion focuses on deriving expressions related to force and motion using Newton's second law. The first part involves showing that the net force, given as -Cv², leads to the relationship x - x0 = (m/C) ln(v0/v) through two integrations. The second part requires rewriting Newton's second law as ƩF = mv(dv/dx) and deriving the same expression using one integration. Participants suggest using separation of variables to solve the differential equations resulting from the force equations. The conversation emphasizes the importance of methodical integration and algebraic manipulation to reach the desired results.
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Homework Statement


If we know F(t) the force as a function of time for straight line motion, Newton's second law gives us a(t) the acceleration as a function of time. We can then integrate a(t) to find v(t) and x(t). However, suppose we know F(v) instead. a) The net force on a body moving along the x-axis equals -Cv^{2}. Use Newton's second law written as ƩF = m \stackrel{dv}{dt} and two integrations to show that x - x0 = (m/C) ln(v0/v). b) Show that Newton's second law can be written as ƩF = m*v*\stackrel{dv}{dx}. Derive the same expression in part (a) using this form of the second law and one integration.


Homework Equations


F = ma
F(v) = -Cv^2


The Attempt at a Solution



For the first part a), I had no idea so I started to differentiate the answer to try and get a method for simplifying it originally. The problem I encounter is that at X, If I take the 2nd derivative of the function I get a(t) = m/Cv^2, which seems impossible because you can't do that with -Cv^2 = m dv/dt. I solved that for dv/dt but i get nowhere really. I'm extremely stumped. Any pointers in the right direction would be extremely useful.

Thanks in advance.
 
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For part a, you already know that

F = ma
F(v) = -Cv^{2}

We can then write the following:

ma = -Cv^{2}
a = \frac{-Cv^2}{m}

\frac{dv}{dt} = \frac{-Cv^2}{m}


Next I will express \frac{-C}{m} as some other constant to simplify the algebra. So let \alpha = \frac{-C}{m}.

\frac{dv}{dt} = \alpha v^2

We can then use the method of separation of variables from ordinary differential equations to write:

\frac{dv}{v^2} = \alpha dt

\int \frac{dv}{v^2} = \alpha \int dt

You should be able to solve this integral for an expression for v. Then, if you isolate v you will be able to write v = dx/dt and repeat this procedure to find an expression for x.
 
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