Proving |A x C| ≤ |(A x B) x C|

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The discussion centers on proving the inequality |A x C| ≤ |(A x B) x C|, where A, B, and C are nonempty sets. The proof establishes a one-to-one function f(a,c) = ((a,b),c) for a fixed b in B, demonstrating that the cardinality of the Cartesian product |A x C| is less than or equal to |(A x B) x C|. A participant questions the necessity of fixing b, suggesting that it may limit the proof's scope, while another clarifies that fixing b simplifies the function definition without loss of generality.

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Problem:
Let A, V, and C be any nonempty sets. Prove or disprove the following:
[tex]|A \times C| \leq |(A \times B) \times C|[/tex]


Proof:
Fix b [tex]\in[/tex] B.
Set f(a,c) = ((a,b),c) for a [tex]\in[/tex] A and c [tex]\in[/tex] C.
Now suppose [tex]f(a_{1}, c_{1}) = f(a_{2}, c_{2})[/tex].
Thus, [tex]f(a_{1}, c_{1}) = ((a_{1}, b), c_{1}) = ((a_{2}, b), c_{2}) = f(a_{2}, c_{2})[/tex]
Thus, [tex](a_{1}, c_{1}) = (a_{2}, c_{2})[/tex] since the corresponding ordered triples are equal.
Thus, [tex](a_{1}) = (a_{2}),[/tex] and [tex](c_{1}) = (c_{2}),[/tex] since the ordered pairs above are equal.
Thus, f is one to one.
Finally, [tex]|A \times C| \leq |(A \times B) \times C|,[/tex] (by definition of one to one functions).


Questions:
I understand this proof and why b[tex]\in[/tex]B is fixed, but to prove [tex]|A \times C| \leq |(A \times B) \times C|,[/tex] it is not necessary to state to fix b. Since b can be any value in the triple order, it doesn't have to be fixed, in fact it can hold any value from the set B and still fulfill the condition: [tex]|A \times C| \leq |(A \times B) \times C|[/tex]. If what I am saying is true, is there an easy modification of the proof above? Personally I think by fixing b, we are limiting the scope of the proof.


Thanks,


JL
 
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You need to fix b only so you can define your function properly. You're right, the function could be any

f: (a,c) -> (a,g(a,c),c)

where g is any function that maps (a,c) to B. But why bother saying that mouthful when you can just say "fix b"?
 

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