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Problem:
Let A, V, and C be any nonempty sets. Prove or disprove the following:
[tex]|A \times C| \leq |(A \times B) \times C|[/tex]
Proof:
Fix b [tex]\in[/tex] B.
Set f(a,c) = ((a,b),c) for a [tex]\in[/tex] A and c [tex]\in[/tex] C.
Now suppose [tex]f(a_{1}, c_{1}) = f(a_{2}, c_{2})[/tex].
Thus, [tex]f(a_{1}, c_{1}) = ((a_{1}, b), c_{1}) = ((a_{2}, b), c_{2}) = f(a_{2}, c_{2})[/tex]
Thus, [tex](a_{1}, c_{1}) = (a_{2}, c_{2})[/tex] since the corresponding ordered triples are equal.
Thus, [tex](a_{1}) = (a_{2}),[/tex] and [tex](c_{1}) = (c_{2}),[/tex] since the ordered pairs above are equal.
Thus, f is one to one.
Finally, [tex]|A \times C| \leq |(A \times B) \times C|,[/tex] (by definition of one to one functions).
Questions:
I understand this proof and why b[tex]\in[/tex]B is fixed, but to prove [tex]|A \times C| \leq |(A \times B) \times C|,[/tex] it is not necessary to state to fix b. Since b can be any value in the triple order, it doesn't have to be fixed, in fact it can hold any value from the set B and still fulfill the condition: [tex]|A \times C| \leq |(A \times B) \times C|[/tex]. If what I am saying is true, is there an easy modification of the proof above? Personally I think by fixing b, we are limiting the scope of the proof.
Thanks,
JL
Let A, V, and C be any nonempty sets. Prove or disprove the following:
[tex]|A \times C| \leq |(A \times B) \times C|[/tex]
Proof:
Fix b [tex]\in[/tex] B.
Set f(a,c) = ((a,b),c) for a [tex]\in[/tex] A and c [tex]\in[/tex] C.
Now suppose [tex]f(a_{1}, c_{1}) = f(a_{2}, c_{2})[/tex].
Thus, [tex]f(a_{1}, c_{1}) = ((a_{1}, b), c_{1}) = ((a_{2}, b), c_{2}) = f(a_{2}, c_{2})[/tex]
Thus, [tex](a_{1}, c_{1}) = (a_{2}, c_{2})[/tex] since the corresponding ordered triples are equal.
Thus, [tex](a_{1}) = (a_{2}),[/tex] and [tex](c_{1}) = (c_{2}),[/tex] since the ordered pairs above are equal.
Thus, f is one to one.
Finally, [tex]|A \times C| \leq |(A \times B) \times C|,[/tex] (by definition of one to one functions).
Questions:
I understand this proof and why b[tex]\in[/tex]B is fixed, but to prove [tex]|A \times C| \leq |(A \times B) \times C|,[/tex] it is not necessary to state to fix b. Since b can be any value in the triple order, it doesn't have to be fixed, in fact it can hold any value from the set B and still fulfill the condition: [tex]|A \times C| \leq |(A \times B) \times C|[/tex]. If what I am saying is true, is there an easy modification of the proof above? Personally I think by fixing b, we are limiting the scope of the proof.
Thanks,
JL
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