Proving abs(x-y) < ε for all ε>0 in Real Analysis

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The discussion revolves around proving that if the absolute difference between two real numbers x and y is less than any positive ε, then x must equal y. This topic falls under the subject area of real analysis, specifically dealing with properties of absolute values and limits.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore various approaches to proving the statement, including attempts at using contrapositive reasoning. Questions are raised about the implications of assuming |x-y| > 0 and how this leads to contradictions or specific values for ε.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants sharing different perspectives on how to approach the proof. Some have suggested specific values for ε and are questioning the implications of their assumptions. There is no explicit consensus yet, but several productive lines of reasoning are being explored.

Contextual Notes

Participants are working within the constraints of proving a mathematical statement without providing complete solutions. The nature of ε and its relationship to the absolute difference is a central point of discussion.

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Prove that abs(x-y) < ε for all ε>0, then x=y.

I really do not know how to start this... I have tried to do the contra positive which would be If x does not equal y, then there exist a ε>0 such that abs(x-y) >= ε. Can someone help me and lead me to the right direction.
 
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Here's how I might approach the problem. Given any two real numbers [itex]x,y \in \mathbb{R}[/itex] we clearly have that [itex]x-y \in \mathbb{R}[/itex] and similarly that [itex]|x-y| \in \mathbb{R}[/itex]. Now, suppose that [itex]|x-y| > 0[/itex], can you see how this imediately results in a contradiction? What does this contradiction suggest about the value of [itex]|x-y|[/itex]?
 
However, if you want to prove the contrapositive, you could do it this way. Pick any two real numbers [itex]x,y[/itex] such that [itex]x-y \neq 0[/itex]. Then clearly [itex]|x-y| > 0[/itex]. Now, what happens if you choose something like [itex]\varepsilon = \frac{|x-y|}{2}[/itex]?
 
mb55113 said:
If x does not equal y, then there exist a ε>0 such that abs(x-y) >= ε. Can someone help me and lead me to the right direction.
Quick: without thinking, tell me a positive number that is either equal to or less than 5.
 
Ok...I tried the contrapositive...I think that i got it so suppose that abs(x-y)=m>0. Therefore we make ε=m/2 which makes abs(x-y)=m>(m/2)=ε and therefore we have found an ε>o and which makes abs(x-y)>= ε...is that right?
 

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