Proving Closest Point on Circle to (3,4): Calculus Solution

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The discussion revolves around proving that the point (3/5, 4/5) is the closest point on the circle defined by the equation x² + y² = 1 to the external point (3, 4). The subject area is calculus, particularly focusing on distance minimization and properties of circles.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the application of the distance formula to find the minimum distance from the point (3, 4) to points on the circle. Questions arise regarding the setup of the distance equation and whether it is necessary to solve for coordinates on the circle before substitution. There is also mention of implicit differentiation and the geometric properties of circles in relation to distance minimization.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants exploring different approaches to set up the problem. Some guidance has been offered regarding the relationship between the radius and the tangent of the circle, as well as the geometric interpretation of the minimum distance. Multiple interpretations of how to approach the problem are being considered.

Contextual Notes

There is a focus on understanding the relationship between the distance from a point to a circle and the geometric properties of the circle itself. Participants are navigating the constraints of the problem without explicit consensus on the best approach.

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Homework Statement


Show that the point (3/5, 4/5) is the closest point on the circle x^{2} + y^{2} = 1 to the point (3, 4).


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The only equation that comes to mind is the distance formula... but I don't know what I would show with that. I know the solution deals with calculus, I just don't know what concepts to apply.
 
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Why don't you write down the distance formula for any point on the circle to the point (3,4), and show that the minimum occurs at the point (3/5, 4/5)?
 
JG89 said:
Why don't you write down the distance formula for any point on the circle to the point (3,4), and show that the minimum occurs at the point (3/5, 4/5)?

Ah, that makes sense. One question, though... do I have to solve the original equation for x1 and y1 before substituting into the distance equation? (I just don't see how you set up the circle equation and various points via the distance equation.) From there, though, I know how to find the minimum.
 
You don't have to solve for y- you can use "inplicit differentiation". But you don't have to differentiate at all:

One crucial point about "min distance" is that the line from a point to a curve that is of minimum distance is perpendicular to the (tangent to the) curve. And, since this is a circle, a tangent is always perpendicular to the radius. The minimum distance from a point to a circle is always measured along the extended radius of the circle.

Since a radius goes through the center, what is the equation of the line through the center of this circle and (3,4)? where does that line intersect the circle? (There will be two points where that line intersects the circle, of course, but one is obviously "nearest", the other "farthest" from the point.)
 

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