Proving closure and boundary points

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The problem involves proving properties related to the closure and boundary points of the set S defined as S = {(x,y): x²+y²<1}. Participants are tasked with demonstrating that the closure of S corresponds to the unit circle defined by the equation x²+y²=1, and identifying the boundary points of S.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the need to show that the closure of S includes points where x²+y²=1 and excludes points where x²+y²>1. There is also mention of using different definitions of closure to aid in the proof. One participant suggests demonstrating that the closure of S is closed and that each point in the closure is also in S's closure.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants exploring various approaches to the proof. Some guidance has been provided regarding the necessary steps to show the properties of the closure and boundary points, but no consensus has been reached on a single method.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty about how to translate their conceptual understanding into a formal mathematical proof, indicating a potential gap in examples or application of theorems presented in their studies.

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Homework Statement


Let S = {(x,y): x^{2}+y^{2}<1}. Prove that \overline{S} is (that formula for the unit circle) \leq 1 and the boundary to be x^{2}+y^{2}=1.


Homework Equations


Boundary of S is denoted as the intersection of the closure of S and the closure of S complement.
p \epsilon boundary of S iff for every r > 0, B(p;r)\capS is non-empty and B(p;r)\capS complement is non-empty.


The Attempt at a Solution


I understand this conceptually and it's obvious that the boundary and closure are those equations respectively but I don't know how to translate that into a math proof. I wasn't exactly given any concrete examples and how to apply the theorems into a proof, was only presented with the theorems.
 
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We know that the closure of S contains all of S, so you just need to show that it also contains points with x^2+y^2=1 as well. There are two parts to this:
1) Show if x^2+y^2=1 then (x,y)\in \overline{S}
2) Show if x^2+y^2&gt;1 then (x,y)\notin \overline{S}

It may help to write down different equivalent definitions of the closure of S when approaching this problem
 
Hi!

I am also stuck on this question. Could we also show the set \overline{S}=\{(x_1,x_2):x_1^2+x_2^2\le 1\} is the closure of S=\{(x_1,x_2):x_1^2+x_2^2&lt; 1\} by showing that (1) \overline{S} is closed, and (2) each point in \overline{S} is in the closure of S? To me, that would show that \overline{S} is the smallest closed set that contains S, since adding more elements to \overline{S} would result in a larger closed set that contains S. Is this correct thinking?

Thanks!

Bijan
 
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Yes, that would work.
 
Thanks, I believe I figured it out!
 

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