Proving convergence of recursive sequence

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The problem involves a recursively defined sequence {An} with initial condition A1 = 1 and recursive relation An+1 = 1/3(An + 4). The goal is to demonstrate that the sequence is increasing and bounded above by 2, which would imply convergence.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

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  • Participants discuss the validity of the base case and inductive step for proving the sequence is increasing and bounded. There are attempts to manipulate the recursive definition to show the relationship between An and An+1, questioning the assumptions about limits and convergence.

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Some participants have provided insights into the recursive nature of the sequence and the implications of the limit. There is an ongoing exploration of the conditions under which the sequence converges, with no explicit consensus reached yet.

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Participants note the importance of showing that the limit exists before concluding about the convergence of the sequence. There is also mention of potential misunderstandings regarding the equality of terms in the limit process.

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Homework Statement



A sequence is defined recursively by the equations A1 = 1, An+1 = 1/3(An + 4). Show that {An} is increasing and An < 2 for all n. Deduce that {An} is convergent and find its limit.

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for n=1 the statement is true
now suppose it's true for a certain n
then An+1 = ...<...=2
here I used the idea that an<2

Now suppose An+1>An for some n. Use: 1/3(An+4) > An

Now for n+1, An+2=1/3(An+1 + 4)=1/3(... + 4)=... > 1/3(An+4) if and only if (solve this for An and come to a trivial solution, in example, an<2)

so now it's increasing and smaller than 2, so...
For the limit, say an+1=an and solve.
 
jacobrhcp said:
for n=1 the statement is true
now suppose it's true for a certain n
then An+1 = ...<...=2
here I used the idea that an<2

Now suppose An+1>An for some n. Use: 1/3(An+4) > An

Now for n+1, An+2=1/3(An+1 + 4)=1/3(... + 4)=... > 1/3(An+4) if and only if (solve this for An and come to a trivial solution, in example, an<2)

so now it's increasing and smaller than 2, so...
For the limit, say an+1=an and solve.
That last statement, "for the limit, say An+1= An and solve" is "shorthand" for what really happens and might be misunderstood (obviously, An+1 is never equal to An). If \alpha is the limit (of course, you must have first shown that the limit exists), taking the limit of both sides of the equation, A_{n+1}= (1/3)(A_n+ 4) to get lim A_{n+1}= (1/3)(lim A_n+ 4) which gives \alpha= (1/3)(\alpha
 
ofcourse, Halls is right. an+1 is not ever an, but they have the same limit as n becomes really big.
 

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