Proving Differentiability of f(x,y) = x(|y|^(1/2)) at (0,0)

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The discussion revolves around proving the differentiability of the function f(x,y) = x(|y|^(1/2)) at the point (0,0). Participants are exploring the implications of the function's definition and the behavior of its partial derivatives.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants are considering the definition of differentiability and whether to approach the problem piecewise due to the nature of the absolute value in the function. There are questions about the existence of the partial derivative with respect to y at y=0 and whether it is necessary to analyze cases for y>0 and y<0 separately.

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Some participants have pointed out potential issues with the original poster's approach, including typos and the need to clarify the definition being used. There is a suggestion to investigate the directional derivative at (0,0) as part of the analysis.

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There are indications that the original poster may have misunderstood aspects of the problem, particularly regarding the differentiability and the behavior of the function at the origin. The discussion reflects a need for careful consideration of the function's properties in different regions of the domain.

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f: R2 to R1 given by f(x,y) = x(|y|^(1/2))
show differentiable at (0,0)

so I'm using the definition lim |h| ->0 (f((0,0) + 9(h1,h2)) - f(0,0) - Df(0,0) (h1,h2)) / |h|

so first for the jacobian for f, when I'm doing the partial with respect to y, do I have to break this into the case y>0 and y<0 and show its differentiable in both cases (and maybe also have to do the same for when h2 >0 or <0) or can I use do it in one step by rewriting and by differentiating (y^2)^1/4 and. I did that and the Df(0,0) just goes away and then limit doesn't go to 0 it seems. Any help is appreciated thanks!
 
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samithie said:
f: R2 to R1 given by f(x,y) = x(|y|^(1/2))
show differentiable at (0,0)

so I'm using the definition lim |h| ->0 (f((0,0) + 9(h1,h2)) - f(0,0) - Df(0,0) (h1,h2)) / |h|

so first for the jacobian for f, when I'm doing the partial with respect to y, do I have to break this into the case y>0 and y<0 and show its differentiable in both cases (and maybe also have to do the same for when h2 >0 or <0) or can I use do it in one step by rewriting and by differentiating (y^2)^1/4 and. I did that and the Df(0,0) just goes away and then limit doesn't go to 0 it seems. Any help is appreciated thanks!
The title of this thread is misleading. This thread has to do differentiation, rather than integration.

It looks like you have some typo's in your definition (of whatever, you don't say),
lim |h| ->0 (f((0,0) + 9(h1,h2)) - f(0,0) - Df(0,0) (h1,h2)) / |h|​

Clearly, the partial derivative, ∂f(x,y)/∂y, does not exist for y=0, except perhaps when x=0 and y=0 . Of course, that's at least part the matter at hand ...

I'm no expert on this, but I suggest looking at the directional derivative of f(x,y) at (0,0), for arbitrary direction.
 
yes sorry about the typos. I think the directional derivatives is not the issue I'm just wondering about if I need to do this piecewise.
 
samithie said:
yes sorry about the typos. I think the directional derivatives is not the issue I'm just wondering about if I need to do this piecewise.
√(|y|) is equivalent to (y2)1/4
 

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