Proving Equation (2a+b)×(c-a)+(b+c)×(a×b)=a×c

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The discussion revolves around proving the vector equation (2a + b)×(c - a) + (b + c)×(a × b) = a × c. Participants explore various approaches to solving this problem, including properties of the cross product and potential dimensional issues.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest using the associative, distributive, and anti-commutative properties of the cross product to simplify the equation.
  • One participant notes that many terms cancel out when applying these properties, emphasizing the importance of the anti-commutative property.
  • Another participant questions the validity of the equation, suggesting it may be incorrect based on dimensional analysis.
  • There is a discussion about the expression a × a, with participants agreeing that it equals zero due to the angle between the vectors being zero.
  • One participant points out a potential mistake in the use of cosine instead of sine in the context of the cross product.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the validity of the equation, with some believing it can be proven while others argue it is incorrect based on dimensional considerations. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the correctness of the original equation.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved assumptions regarding the dimensionality of the vectors involved and the specific properties of the cross product being applied. The discussion also reflects varying levels of familiarity with vector operations among participants.

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The question is prove the following equation:

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(2a + b)×(c -a ) + (b + c)×(a × b) = a × c
 
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Can you put forward any idea that you may have on solving this problem?
 
Why don't you use the asociative, distributive and anticonmutative properties of the cross product?
 
It looks very simple to me by just doing what AiRAVATA says. As you would expect, a loot of things cancel. Look especially carefully at the "anti-commutative" property since you may not be used to that. In particular, what is axa?
 
a x a <=> |a|*|a|*cosθ ,
because θ=0 so |a|*|a|*cosθ =0 , a x a =0
Can you give a sample example relative my question? I can not find any example on my schoolbook.
Thanks you!
 
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AiRAVATA and HallsofIvy already told you. Expand and it cancels out simply. Have you actually tried it?
 
Hi
The reasult is the question is wrong. Someone was sure the question was wrong at frist glance. The question can not be allowd by dimension role.

(b + c)×(a × b) may change to (b + c)×(a + b)

In that case, the question was very easy.
Thanks!
 
jiangxiaoyu said:
a x a <=> |a|*|a|*cosθ ,
because θ=0 so |a|*|a|*cosθ =0 , a x a =0

Surely you mean sinθ, not cosθ. Just wanted to alert you of this mistake... also, that equation only measures the length, since the cross product yields a vector.
 

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