Proving Fermat's principle without calculus?

Click For Summary
SUMMARY

This discussion centers on the historical context of Fermat's principle and its proof prior to the development of calculus by Newton and Leibniz. Participants highlight the challenges Fermat faced due to the absence of modern mathematical notation and techniques. The conversation also touches on the relevance of Snell's law and the evolution of mathematical expressions, referencing original works by mathematicians like Leonhard Euler. The discussion emphasizes that despite the lack of formal calculus, effective methods for solving these problems existed.

PREREQUISITES
  • Understanding of Fermat's principle
  • Familiarity with Snell's law
  • Knowledge of historical mathematical notation
  • Awareness of classical physics concepts
NEXT STEPS
  • Research the historical development of Fermat's principle
  • Study the original papers of Leonhard Euler
  • Explore the implications of Snell's law in optics
  • Learn about the transition from classical to modern mathematical notation
USEFUL FOR

Students of physics and mathematics, historians of science, and anyone interested in the foundational principles of optics and their historical development.

Nikhil Kumawat
According to me this topic must be raised and discussed how fermat did it without calculus.What problems he faced since calculus was developed afterwards by Newton leibniz.

http://aapt.scitation.org/doi/10.1119/1.1514235

Moderator's edit: File substituted by link due to potential copyright violation.
 
Last edited by a moderator:
Science news on Phys.org
I need help over this topic too...and a clarification over how the series of events went in history..
 
@Nikhil Kumawat thread is being moved to General Math - the New Member forum is for introductions not questions.
 
I moved it to Classical Physics as there might be better chances of an answer. Although it is about mathematical techniques, it is a physical law at its heart. The historical aspect of it is also about the history of Snell's law.

@Nikhil Kumawat please remind me to move it back to mathematics in case you won't get answers here. Both subforums are suited, so the question where it belongs to has no unique answer.

The fact, that there was none of our modern notations doesn't imply they haven't had methods to deal with. There have been several wordings around which actually describe the calculations, simply in other terms. I've recently read an original paper from Leonhard Euler about the gamma function and couldn't identify even the function from this. This doesn't affect the fact, that it nevertheless contained the statement which we nowadays write down in a completely different manner.
 
Last edited:

Similar threads

  • · Replies 10 ·
Replies
10
Views
4K
  • · Replies 14 ·
Replies
14
Views
15K
Replies
2
Views
710
Replies
26
Views
18K
  • · Replies 13 ·
Replies
13
Views
3K
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
6K
  • · Replies 21 ·
Replies
21
Views
6K
  • Sticky
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
503K
  • · Replies 5 ·
Replies
5
Views
5K
  • · Replies 7 ·
Replies
7
Views
4K