Proving Integral of x^x Does Not Exist

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The discussion revolves around the function x^x and the challenge of proving that its integral does not exist in terms of elementary functions. Participants explore various approaches and references related to integration and the nature of the function.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant notes the lack of an elementary function that serves as the antiderivative of x^x and seeks a rigorous proof of this assertion.
  • References to academic literature are provided, including works by MARCHISOTO and ZAKERI, and J. F. Ritt, which discuss integration in finite terms.
  • Another participant requests more accessible online resources related to the topic of integration of x^x.
  • A participant shares a link to a website that appears to address integration methods, although its relevance is questioned.
  • One participant presents a formula involving the integral of f(x)e^g^(x) and expresses frustration that it does not yield useful insights regarding the integral of x^x.
  • Another participant asserts that x^x is not a rational function, suggesting that the integration approach discussed may not be applicable and indicating that the situation is more complex than presented in a referenced webpage.
  • A suggestion is made to express x^x in terms of e^{x ln x} as a potential avenue for exploration.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the methods for proving the non-existence of an elementary antiderivative for x^x, and multiple competing views and approaches remain in the discussion.

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The discussion includes references to specific mathematical theories and theorems, but the applicability of these to the function x^x is debated. There are also indications of missing assumptions and the complexity of the integration process that are not fully resolved.

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Recently I have begun thinking about the function x^x. I am well aware that there is no elementary function to define it's antiderivative, and intuitively it makes sense (I cannot think of an elementary function who's derivative is x^x). However, how would one go about proving this rigorously?
 
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MARCHISOTO and ZAKERI (1994): "An Invitation to Integration in Finite Terms" , The College Mathematics Journal 25 No. 4 Sept. pp 295 - 308

J. F. Ritt, Integration in finite terms: Liouville's theory of elementary methods, 1948
 


Does anyone happen to have a more accessible resource about this subject? Like something online?
 


so what we have is:

<br /> \int f(x)e^g^(^x^)dx<br />
<br /> g(x)=0<br />
<br /> f(x)=x^x<br />

so the formula given

<br /> <br /> f(x)=R&#039;(x)+g(x)R(x)<br /> <br />

just goes to

<br /> f(x)=R&#039;(x)<br />

which isn't overly illuminating :(
 


n1person said:
so what we have is:

<br /> \int f(x)e^g^(^x^)dx<br />
<br /> g(x)=0<br />
<br /> f(x)=x^x<br />

so the formula given

<br /> <br /> f(x)=R&#039;(x)+g(x)R(x)<br /> <br />

just goes to

<br /> f(x)=R&#039;(x)<br />

which isn't overly illuminating :(

No, x^x is not a rational function, so this is not the way to fit the theorem.
In fact, the case of x^x (as explained in the actual references) is a bit more involved than that simplistic web page says.
 


How about letting x^x = e^{x\ln x}?
 

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