Proving Least Positive Residue Using m-Cycle Permutations

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The discussion revolves around proving a property of an m-cycle permutation in group theory, specifically focusing on the behavior of the least positive residue when applying the permutation multiple times. Participants are exploring the implications of this property in the context of modular arithmetic.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants are questioning the definition and implications of the least positive residue, particularly in cases where the index may be a multiple of m. There is an exploration of how to handle cases where the remainder is zero and its relation to positive integers.

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Some participants are beginning to formulate a proof by induction, discussing the base case and the inductive step. There is an ongoing examination of how the least positive residue relates to the indices involved in the permutation, and some guidance has been offered regarding the structure of the proof.

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Participants are navigating the constraints of the problem, particularly the definitions of residues and their implications in the context of the m-cycle permutation. There is a recognition of the need for clarity in the wording of certain mathematical statements.

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Homework Statement


Prove that if ##\sigma## is the ##m##-cycle ##(a_1 ~ a_2 ... a_m)##, then for all ##i \in \{1,...,m\}##, ##\sigma^{i}(a_k) = a_{k+i}##, where ##k+i## is replaced by its least positive residue ##\mod m##.

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My question is embarrassingly simple. What is the least positive residue? Would it be that number ##x \in \mathbb{Z}^+## for which ##x \equiv k+1 (\mod m)##?
 
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Bashyboy said:

Homework Statement


Prove that if ##\sigma## is the ##m##-cycle ##(a_1 ~ a_2 ... a_m)##, then for all ##i \in \{1,...,m\}##, ##\sigma^{i}(a_k) = a_{k+i}##, where ##k+i## is replaced by its least positive residue ##\mod m##.

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My question is embarrassingly simple. What is the least positive residue? Would it be that number ##x \in \mathbb{Z}^+## for which ##x \equiv k+1 (\mod m)##?
It simply means the remainders in ##\{1, \ldots , m\}## which is necessary for the index ##i+k## to make sense.
E.g. You can write ##16 = 2 \cdot 7 + 2## or ##16 = 1 \cdot 7 + 9## or ##16 = 4 \cdot 7 - 12##. All these numbers ##2,9,-12## are possible remainders of a division by ##7##. However, we usually only consider the ##2## as the one we want to look at. And ##2## is the least positive one.
 
Okay, I hate to revive this thread, but I haven't been able to look at the problem for some time. I am still having trouble with this least positive residue business. What happens if ##k+1## is a multiple of ##m##? Wouldn't the remainder be zero, which is a not a positive number? Don't we need to prove that ##k+1## divided by ##m## has a least positive residue in ##\{1,...,m\}##? I am not even sure I worded that last sentence correctly. I am trying to see the connection between the remainder you get from the division algorithm and the one the problem demands (i.e., the remainder in ##\{1,...,m\}##).
 
If ##k+1## is a multiple of ##m##, then the least positive residue is ##m## for the reason you noted, i.e., 0 is not a positive number.
 
Okay, I think I am starting to see now. Perhaps someone could help me with proving the theorem now. We will prove the theorem by induction. When ##i=1##, we have the formula says ##\sigma^1(a_k) = a_{k+1}##. Now, either ##k+1 \in \{1,...,m\}## or ##k+1 = m+1##. In in first case, we have ##k+1 = m \cdot 0 + k+1## and therefore the least positive residue is ##k+1##, implying ##\sigma^1 (a_k)=a_{k+1}##. In the second case, the least positive residue is ##1## and ##k=m##, so that ##\sigma^1(a_k) = \sigma(a_m) = a_1##. In either case, however, the formula agrees with how ##\sigma## is defined to map the elements ##\{a_1,...,a_m\}##.

I feel that the above is correct, but it could perhaps be stated more precisely, especially the line ##\sigma^1(a_k) = \sigma(a_m) = a_1##.

Now I am trying to work on induction, but I am having a little trouble. Suppose that ##\sigma^i(a_k)= a_{r}##, where ##r## is the least positive residue, holds for some ##i## (which ##i##? How many?). Then ##\sigma^{i+1}(a_k) = \sigma (\sigma^i(a_k))##. Since this holds for ##i##, ##\sigma^i(a_k) = a_r##. I am having trouble seeing what ##\sigma## does to ##a_r##; i.e., what does ##\sigma (a_r)## equal?
 
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Okay, I think I am starting to see now. Perhaps someone could help me with proving the theorem now. We will prove the theorem by induction. When ##i=1##, we have the formula says ##\sigma^1(a_k) = a_{k+1}##. Now, either ##k+1 \in \{1,...,m\}## or ##k+1 = m+1##. In in first case, we have ##k+1 = m \cdot 0 + k+1## and therefore the least positive residue is ##k+1##, implying ##\sigma^1 (a_k)=a_{k+1}##. In the second case, the least positive residue is ##1## and ##k=m##, so that ##\sigma^1(a_k) = \sigma(a_m) = a_1##. In either case, however, the formula agrees with how ##\sigma## is defined to map the elements ##\{a_1,...,a_m\}##.

I feel that the above is correct, ...
Yes.
... but it could perhaps be stated more precisely, especially the line ##\sigma^1(a_k) = \sigma(a_m) = a_1##.
To me, it's fine.

Now I am trying to work on induction, but I am having a little trouble. Suppose that ##\sigma^i(a_k)= a_{r}##, where ##r## is the least positive residue, holds for some ##i## (which ##i##? How many?).
It holds for all numbers from ##1## to ##i##. We simply pretend as if we had checked them all. And from that, we show, that it has to be also true for the next one, that is ##i+1##.

Then ##\sigma^{i+1}(a_k) = \sigma (\sigma^i(a_k))##. Since this holds for ##i##, ##\sigma^i(a_k) = a_r##.
Correct.
I am having trouble seeing what ##\sigma## does to ##a_r##; i.e., what does ##\sigma (a_r)## equal?
Now you get a little bit lost. What you have (by induction hypothesis) is ##\sigma^{i+1}(a_k) = \sigma (\sigma^i(a_k)) = \sigma (a_r) = \sigma^1 (a_r)##. You just have written it (in the line above my "correct"). But you know more about ##r##. You constructed it with ##i## by doing ##i## additions ##+1## and reduced every of the ##i## results modulo ##m##, step by step from ##1## until ##i##. So is this the same as reducing the entire ##r=k+i## in one step instead? From here on, simply apply the same argument to ##a_r## as you did in the induction base for ##a_k##.
 

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