Proving lim(S_n) = 1/2(1 + sqrt(5)) for Quick Analysis Problem

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The problem involves analyzing the sequence defined by S_1 = 1 and S_n+1 = sqrt(S_n + 1) for n >= 1, with the goal of proving that the limit of S_n approaches 1/2(1 + sqrt(5)). The context is within the study of limits and convergence of sequences.

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  • Participants discuss the need to identify possible limits and the conditions under which a sequence converges, particularly focusing on whether the sequence is bounded and monotonic. There is mention of solving a quadratic equation related to the limits.

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The discussion is active, with participants providing guidance on proving convergence and exploring the implications of the sequence's properties. Some participants express uncertainty about specific steps, while others clarify the relationship between the terms of the sequence and the limit.

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One participant notes the assumption that S_n converges, which influences the approach to the problem. There is also a reference to the need to demonstrate whether the sequence is increasing or decreasing to establish convergence to the correct limit.

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Homework Statement


Let S_1 = 1 and for n >= 1 let S_n+1 = sqrt(S_n + 1)

e.g. s_2 = sqrt(2), s_3 = sqrt(sqrt(2) + 1), etc.


Prove lim(S_n) = 1/2(1 + sqrt(5)).

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Not really sure how to approach this. This is right after the "Limit Theorems" section in our book, so I would assume I have to use some limit theorems. The tricky part is figuring out which ones to use! :rolleyes: Thanks for any help.
 
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Alright, two things:

First you must find the possible limits. If they exists they will solve

lim(S_n+1) = lim(sqrt[S_n + 1]).

recall that lim(S_n+1) = lim(S_n) = s. So you just solve a quadratic equation.

Now, you don't know if they exist, but just remember one thing:

A monotone bounded sequence is convergent.

See if you can prove that the sequence is bounded and monotone.

If you can show that, then you know it must converge, and if it converges then it converges to either one of the two equilibrium (should be fairly obvious to which).
 
Thanks for your response. I neglected to say in the first post that we can assume S_n converges, which makes the problem a lot easier. So I know that lim(S_n+1) = lim(sqrt[S_n + 1]) = lim(S_n) = s. I'm not sure what you mean by solving a quadratic equation.

Edit: OK, I have lim(S_n+1)lim(sqrt[S_n + 1]) = lim(S_n+1 * sqrt[s_n + 1]) = s^2. Not sure if that helps me or not.
 
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you have S_n+1 = sqrt(S_n + 1) or equivalently
S_n+1^2 = S_n + 1

Assuming that S_n converges to s, we have lim(S_n+1) = lim(S_n) = s
So s^2 = s + 1

Solve for s, you will get two solutions, one of which is the one you posted.
Now, you got to show that it converges to that one and not the toher... which means that it will be either increasing or decreasing monotonically to it (which should be its boundary). That's what you have to show.
 
Ok, I figured it out. Thanks for your help!
 

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