Proving Limit of f'(x) = 0 with MVT

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The discussion revolves around proving that the limit of the derivative f'(x) approaches 0 as x approaches infinity, given that both the limit of f'(x) and f(n) exist and are finite. The context involves the application of the Mean Value Theorem (MVT) in this analysis.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the application of the Mean Value Theorem and the implications of taking limits with respect to different variables. There is uncertainty about whether the approach taken leads to valid conclusions, particularly concerning the treatment of constants and the nature of limits.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different approaches to applying the MVT. Some guidance has been offered regarding the use of neighborhoods instead of intervals, and there is recognition of the need to clarify the distinction between fixed points and limits as variables approach infinity.

Contextual Notes

Participants express concern about the potential for indeterminate forms and the appropriateness of taking limits in the manner described. There is an acknowledgment of the challenge in proving the limit of f'(x) as x approaches infinity rather than just at a fixed point.

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Homework Statement


Let f be diff. on (0,infinity) If the limit of f'(x) as x->infinity and limit of f(n) as n->infinity both exist and are finite, prove limit of f'(x) as x->infinity is 0.

Homework Equations


Mean Value Theorem (applied below)

The Attempt at a Solution


Suppose a>0 and b>0. Then by mvt there exists c in (a,b) such that f'(c)=(f(b)-f(a))/(b-a).

Now taking the limit of both sides with respect to b as b->infinity, f'(c)=0 since the limit of f(n) as n->infinity is finite. Now, take the limit of both sides with respect to c as c->infinity and we have what we want?


Not sure if this does it or is clear because the presence of f(a) might turn limit into indeterminate form? But f(a), and a is finite so taking the limit of both sides still yields what we want. This seemed a little too "convenient"...


Thank you for looking.
 
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a isn't changing at all so f(a) is just some constant.
 
Yeah, so it's ok to take the limit of both sides twice with respect to different variables without something going wrong? So it's the limit of a limit or I guess taking one variable to infinity then another one at a time. Sorry this probably just sounds inane.
 
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Well, instead of using the interval (a,b), try a neighborhood of b.

f'(c) = (f(b-e) - f(b+e))/2e

Take the limit as b goes to infinity. Since both f(b-e) and f(b+e) will go to the same limit, f'(c) = 0.
 
I think I see the problem: MVT itself shows that f'(c)=0 for some fixed c>0. But the problem asks to show that lim f'(x) as x-> infinity is 0.
 
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