Proving Properties of Open Sets in Real Numbers

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The discussion revolves around the properties of open sets in the context of real numbers, specifically focusing on definitions and characteristics of open sets, including the use of rational numbers in intervals and the nature of unions of open sets.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants are attempting to understand the implications of the definition of open sets, particularly regarding the existence of rational endpoints in intervals. Questions are raised about the existence of rational numbers within specified bounds and the nature of unions of open intervals.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided hints and suggestions for parts (a) and (b), while others express uncertainty about part (c). There is ongoing exploration of how to approach the counting of open subsets and the properties of intervals.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention a lack of coverage of relevant material in class, which may be affecting their understanding and ability to tackle the problems presented.

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Homework Statement



A subset U [tex]\subseteq[/tex] R is called open if, for every x [tex]\in[/tex] U, there is an open interval (a, b) where x [tex]\in[/tex] (a, b) [tex]\subseteq[/tex] U.

(a) Show that, in the above de definition, the numbers a, b may be taken
as rational; that is, if x [tex]\in[/tex] U, there is an open interval (c, d) where
x [tex]\in[/tex] (c, d) [tex]\subseteq[/tex] U and where c, d [tex]\in[/tex] Q.

(b) Show that any open set U is a union of (possibly in finitely many)
intervals (a, b) where a, b [tex]\in[/tex] Q.

(c) How many open subsets of R exist?

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The Attempt at a Solution



i don't have much idea, the idiot prof hasnt even covered most of the stuff in class.
 
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For (a), let m := (b - a) / 2 be the midpoint of the interval. Do there exist rational numbers c and d such that a < c < m < d < b?

For (b), here's a hint:
[tex]U = \bigcup_{x \in U} x[/tex].
 
Hi, thank you for the hints but I am still stuck on part c. any ideas?
 
I take it that means that you did a and b.

I haven't given c much though myself. You could start by counting how many open intervals there are, for which it suffices to count intervals of the form (c, d) with c and d rational. Then how many unions can you take?
 

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