Proving rational function converges from first principles

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The discussion revolves around proving a property of a rational function using first principles, specifically focusing on the expression $$|x - 4| > \frac{1}{2}$$. Participants are exploring the algebraic derivation of this expression and its implications in the context of limits and distances on a number line.

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  • Participants are attempting to derive the expression $$|x - 4| > \frac{1}{2}$$ using different algebraic methods and are questioning the validity of their approaches. There is also a focus on understanding the implications of absolute values in inequalities.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing various methods and insights. Some have offered geometric interpretations, while others are clarifying algebraic principles. There is no explicit consensus yet, as confusion remains about the algebraic manipulations and the properties of inequalities.

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Participants are working under the constraints of homework rules, which may limit the depth of their explorations. There is an emphasis on understanding the reasoning behind the algebraic steps rather than simply arriving at a solution.

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I am confused how they get $$| x - 4 | > \frac{1}{2}$$ from. I have tried deriving that expression from two different methods. Here is the first method:

$$-1\frac{1}{2} < x - 4 < -\frac{1}{2}$$
$$1\frac{1}{2} > -(x - 4) > \frac{1}{2}$$
$$|1\frac{1}{2}| > |-(x - 4)| > |\frac{1}{2}|$$
$$1\frac{1}{2} > |-1||x - 4| > \frac{1}{2}$$
$$1\frac{1}{2} > |x - 4| > \frac{1}{2}$$
Thus $$ |x - 4| > \frac{1}{2}$$

However, I also have an alternative method, but I am unsure why it is not giving the correct expression. Here the second method:

$$-1\frac{1}{2} < x - 4 < -\frac{1}{2}$$
$$|-1\frac{1}{2}| < |x - 4| < |-\frac{1}{2}|$$
$$1\frac{1}{2} < |x - 4| < \frac{1}{2}$$

Does someone please know what I have done wrong?

Thank you - Chiral
 
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ChiralSuperfields said:
I am confused how they get $$| x - 4 | > \frac{1}{2}$$ from.
That is because ##|x-3|<\frac {1}{2}## so ##x## is closer to 3 than it is to 4..
 
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FactChecker said:
That is because ##|x-3|<\frac {1}{2}## so ##x## is closer to 3 than it is to 4..
Thank you for your reply @FactChecker!

Sorry I am still confused. I am trying to understand how they algebraically derive $$|x - 4| > \frac{1}{2}$$

Thanks!
 
1) You can look on the number line and see it geometrically.
or
2) |x-3| <1/2
=> x-3 < 1/2
=> x-4 < 1/2-1 = -1/2
=> 4-x > 1/2
=> |x-4| > 1/2
 
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FactChecker said:
1) You can look on the number line and see it geometrically.
or
2) |x-3| <1/2
=> x-3 < 1/2
=> x-4 < 1/2-1 = -1/2
=> 4-x > 1/2
=> |x-4| > 1/2
Thank for your reply @FactChecker!

However, I am still confused. Do you please know why you only consider the positive case when you take off the absolute value off x - 3 i.e not $$-(x - 3) < 1/2$$?

Do you also please know whether my two algebraic methods are correct?

Thanks!
 
ChiralSuperfields said:
$$-1\frac{1}{2} < x - 4 < -\frac{1}{2}$$
$$|-1\frac{1}{2}| < |x - 4| < |-\frac{1}{2}|$$
This is your error. ##x-4 \lt -\frac{1}{2}## does not imply ##|x-4|\lt |-\frac{1}{2}|##.
 
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FactChecker said:
This is your error. ##x-4 \lt -\frac{1}{2}## does not imply ##|x-4|\lt |-\frac{1}{2}|##.
Thank you for your reply @FactChecker!

That is interesting, do you please know why? I took the absolute value of all three sides of the equation from the law of algebra. I thought they would be equivalent since I did the same thing to each side of the equation.

Thanks!
 
ChiralSuperfields said:
That is interesting, do you please know why? I took the absolute value of all three sides of the equation from the law of algebra. I thought they would be equivalent since I did the same thing to each side of the equation.
These are not equations. When you have a comparison like ##-100 \lt 1##, which is not an equation, you can not just do the same thing to both sides and know that the same comparison still works.
##-100 \lt 1## does not mean that ##|-100 |\lt |1|##.
 
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It there is equality, then any function applied to equal things will give equal answers. If ##x1=x2##, then ##f(x1)=f(x2)##. Otherwise, the function ##f()## is not well defined. But if there is some other relationship between ##x1## and ##x2## different from equality, that can not be guarantied.
 
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