Proving Sequence Convergence: Tips & Tricks

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The discussion revolves around proving the convergence of a sequence defined by a specific relation involving its terms. Participants are exploring the nature of the sequence, questioning whether it is alternating or decreasing, and discussing the challenges posed by the lack of initial values for the sequence.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants are attempting to use induction to prove properties of the sequence but express difficulty due to missing initial terms. There is a suggestion to define a new sequence based on the differences between terms, and some participants question the correctness of the original relation presented.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with various approaches being explored, including the definition of new sequences to analyze convergence. Some participants have offered insights into potential methods, but there is no clear consensus on the best approach or the nature of the sequence itself.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the absence of initial values for the sequence, which complicates the proof process. There are also indications of possible errors in the original problem statement as it has been clarified during the discussion.

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I know that the sequences meets the following:
[tex](n+1)(a_{n+1}-a_n)=n(a_{n-1}-a_n)[/tex]
I've got the feeling that this sequence is alternating or decreasing, but I was unable to prove it.
Usually I use induction to prove things about such inductive sequence but in this case I don't have real values t o the first terms of the sequence so I don't have an idea how to even begin inductive prove.
 
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hi estro! :smile:

(try using the X2 icon just above the Reply box :wink:)
estro said:
(n+1)(a_{n+1}-a_n)=n(a_{n+1}-a_n)

are those two brackets meant to be the same? :confused:

if (n+1)X = nX, then X = 0
 
I have found this question in an old exam, so maybe there is some kind of mistake, I'm not sure.
[tex] (n+1)(a_{n+1}-a_n)=n(a_{n-1}-a_n)[/tex]
[EDIT] Copied question in a wrong way, now fixed.
 
ah! :rolleyes:

ok … standard way of solving that is to define bn = an+1 - an wink:
 
Still can't see a benefit to define [tex]b_m=a_{n+1}-a_n[/tex].
I've used to prove convergence of alternating sequences by using Cantor's Lemma in a geometric formulation.
Marked each section [tex][a_{n+1},a_n][/tex] and then I proved that each next section smaller and ultimately the length of a sections is going to 0.
But I always had the first terms and used induction to prove sequences is bounded.
But here all these tricks don't work as I can't even prove that this sequence is alternating.
 
If you let [itex]b_n = a_n - a_{n-1}[/itex] then your relation is transformed into [tex]\frac{b_{n+1}}{b_n} = \frac{n}{n+1} < 1[/tex].
 

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