Proving Simultaneous Equations Always Have Two Solutions | Formula Included

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The discussion revolves around proving that a set of simultaneous equations has two distinct solutions for all possible values of the parameter k. The equations under consideration are a quadratic equation derived from substituting y in terms of k into a linear equation.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the simplification of the quadratic equation and the application of the quadratic formula. There are questions about the discriminant and its implications for the number of solutions. Some participants express confusion about the calculations and the interpretation of results.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring the implications of the discriminant being greater than zero for all values of k. Some have provided guidance on focusing on the discriminant rather than solving for specific values of x or y.

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There is a noted confusion regarding the calculations of the discriminant and the parameters involved. Participants are working under the assumption that they need to demonstrate the existence of two distinct solutions without specific values for k.

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Show that the simultaneous equation always have two distinct solutions, for all possible values of k

2x^2+ xy = 10

x + y = k

I know that i have to use b^2 - 4ac = 0

please try the number i am having some problems...
my work

y = k - x

so i replace in equation and i got:

2x^2 + xk - x^2 - 10 = 0 as from here i am stuck..help how to prove that..?
 
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2x2 + kx - x2 - 10 = 0

simplifies to

x2 - kx - 10 = 0

which is a quadratic equation for any k

the quadratic formula has the +/- thing, so you either have 2 real roots or 2 complex roots [ depending on the value of the discriminant ]
 
thrill3rnit3 said:
2x2 + kx - x2 - 10 = 0

simplifies to

x2 - kx - 10 = 0

which is a quadratic equation for any k

the quadratic formula has the +/- thing, so you either have 2 real roots or 2 complex roots [ depending on the value of the discriminant ]


hey how do you obtain -kx
 
I meant +kx sorry...

But the rest is still the same.
 
thrill3rnit3 said:
I meant +kx sorry...

But the rest is still the same.

Yeahh me too i have reacheed this level...but the problem is that when i used the formula b^2 - 4ac i cannot get the answer..!


a = -1

b = -k

c = 10

(-k)^2 - 4 (-1)(10) = 0

k^2 = -40

so i am stuck here...what should i do
 
You don't solve for k, you solve for x,y - and you don't give answer as a number (you can't not knowing value of k parameter), but as a formula containing k.
 
jinx007 said:
Yeahh me too i have reacheed this level...but the problem is that when i used the formula b^2 - 4ac i cannot get the answer..!


a = -1

b = -k

c = 10

(-k)^2 - 4 (-1)(10) = 0

k^2 = -40

so i am stuck here...what should i do
[itex]b^2- 4ac= k^2+ 40[/itex] which is always positive.
 
You do not have to solve for any value. All you have to do is show that there are two distinct solutions for any value of k. This means you must show that discriminant

[tex]D = b^2 - 4 a c = k^2 + 40 > 0[/tex] for all values of k. Is this true?
 

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