Proving the Delta Function Identity Using the Local Behavior of Functions

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The discussion revolves around proving a specific identity involving the delta function, particularly focusing on the expression δ(x² - a²). The original poster indicates a need to derive this identity without relying on a previously proven result, while also referencing a related equation.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the local behavior of the delta function near its roots, specifically at x = a and x = -a. There are attempts to understand how to manipulate the delta function when expressed as a product of factors. Some participants question the visualization of the delta function and its behavior in different contexts.

Discussion Status

The discussion is progressing with participants sharing insights about approximating the delta function's behavior near its roots. There is acknowledgment that while the reasoning may not be formally rigorous, it leads to a clearer understanding of the identity in question. Multiple interpretations of the delta function's properties are being explored.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty about the visualization of the delta function and its approximations, indicating a need for further clarification on its properties and behavior in specific scenarios. There is also mention of the requirement to avoid certain methods in the proof process.

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Homework Statement


See http://mathworld.wolfram.com/DeltaFunction.html

I want to show (6) on that page. I can show it using (7), but we aren't supposed to do that. I already proved (5), and my prof says to use the fact that (5) is true to get the answer.


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The Attempt at a Solution


Here's what I tried:
δ(x2 - a2) = δ((x-a)(x+a))

I'm not sure how to use (5), because here a is not multiplying x. I'm not sure where to go from here.
 
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Imagine what the delta look like in the neighborhood of a and -a, i.e., when one factor goes to zero, the other factor is pretty much constant over that entire neighborhood.
 
I don't really know what it looks like. I know that δ(x) is zero everywhere except at x = 0. At x = 0, it's infinity.

I know that δ(x-a) is the same as above except that now it's infinity at x = a.

But I don't know what δ(x2) looks like.
 
jumbogala said:
I don't really know what it looks like. I know that δ(x) is zero everywhere except at x = 0. At x = 0, it's infinity.

I know that δ(x-a) is the same as above except that now it's infinity at x = a.

But I don't know what δ(x2) looks like.

Near x=a, δ((x-a)(x+a)) pretty much looks like δ((x-a)*2a). That's sunjin09's point.
 
I don't understand why it looks like that though. I am having problems visualizing it.

I don't get how you know what it looks like unless it's just δ(x) or δ(x-a) by itself.
 
jumbogala said:
I don't understand why it looks like that though. I am having problems visualizing it.

I don't get how you know what it looks like unless it's just δ(x) or δ(x-a) by itself.

Near x=a, (x+a) is nearly 2a. You can't visualize that?
 
Ohh okay, I see that near x = a, (x+a) is about 2a. So we're just making an approximation and plugging it into the delta function, is that right?

I wasn't sure what the delta function itself looked like, not what x+a looks like.
 
jumbogala said:
Ohh okay, I see that near x = a, (x+a) is about 2a. So we're just making an approximation and plugging it into the delta function, is that right?

I wasn't sure what the delta function itself looked like, not what x+a looks like.

Yes, I think you are ok with hand waving through this. Near x=(-a) the value of (x-a) is nearly -2a. So split it into two delta functions at the two values where x^2-a^2 vanishes.
 
Alright, that makes a lot more sense now. So basically, we're saying:

δ((x-a)(x+a)) = δ((x-a)*2a) + δ((x+a)*(-2a))

Is it okay to do that because it's zero elsewhere (within the delta function)?
 
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jumbogala said:
Alright, that makes a lot more sense now. So basically, we're saying:

δ((x-a)(x+a)) = δ((x-a)*2a) + δ((x+a)*(-2a))

Is it okay to do that because it's zero elsewhere? It seems a little odd to split a multiplication up like that.

Yes, I think it's ok to do that because it's zero elsewhere. It's not a formal proof, but the answer is correct.
 
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The idea is δ(f(x)) is zero except at f(x0)=0, so all that matters is the local behavior of f(x) near x0, so you can approximate f(x) around x0 by f(x)≈f'(x0)(x-x0). Since all the zeros of f(x) must be accounted for, you easily derive the general formula (7) mentioned in your original post. This is certainly not a formal proof, as Dick pointed out, but I think you can have a formal but still not rigorous proof by using a test function, i.e., try evaluate ∫ δ(f(x))*g(x) dx and see what you get.
 

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