Proving the Monotone Convergence Theorem for Non-Negative Measurable Functions

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The discussion revolves around proving the Monotone Convergence Theorem for non-negative measurable functions, specifically focusing on the limit of the integral of the minimum of a function and a constant as the constant approaches infinity.

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  • Participants explore the definition of the minimum function and its implications for constructing a sequence of functions. There are questions about the correct formulation of these functions and their convergence properties.

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Participants are actively discussing the setup of the problem and the definitions involved. Some have provided clarifications on the notation used, while others are questioning the conditions under which the Monotone Convergence Theorem can be applied. There is an acknowledgment of the need to consider cases where the function may be finite or infinite.

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There is a focus on ensuring the sequence of functions is correctly defined to apply the theorem, with some participants noting the importance of handling cases where the integral may diverge to infinity.

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Homework Statement



Let f be a non-negative measurable function. Prove that

\lim _{n \rightarrow \infty} \int (f \wedge n) \rightarrow \int f.

The Attempt at a Solution



I feel like I'm supposed to use the monotone convergence theorem.

I don't know if I'm on the right track but I created a sequence of functions so that

h_1(x) \leq h_2(x) \cdots where

h_1(x) = \min(f_1(x), n)

h_2(x) = \min(f_2(x),n)

\vdots

h_n(x) = \min(f_n(x),n)

So the h(x) = \lim_{n\rightarrow\infty} h_n(x) = \lim_{n\rightarrow \infty} \min(f_n,n) = \lim_{n \rightarrow \infty}\min(f,n)
 
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BrainHurts said:

Homework Statement



Let f be a non-negative measurable function. Prove that

\lim _{n \rightarrow \infty} \int (f \wedge n) \rightarrow \int f.

The Attempt at a Solution



I feel like I'm supposed to use the monotone convergence theorem.

I don't know if I'm on the right track but I created a sequence of functions so that

h_1(x) \leq h_2(x) \cdots where

h_1(x) = \min(f_1(x), n)

h_2(x) = \min(f_2(x),n)

\vdots

h_n(x) = \min(f_n(x),n)

So the h(x) = \lim_{n\rightarrow\infty} h_n(x) = \lim_{n\rightarrow \infty} \min(f_n,n) = \lim_{n \rightarrow \infty}\min(f,n)

I'm guessing ##f \wedge n## means min(f,n)? Then why not just define ##f_n=\min(f,n)##? What do YOU mean by your ##f_n##??
 
Dick said:
I'm guessing ##f \wedge n## means min(f,n)? Then why not just define ##f_n=min(f,n)##? What do YOU mean by your ##f_n##??

yes f \wedge n = \min(f, n)

so define

f_1(x) = \min(f(x),1)

f_2(x) = \min(f(x),2)

\vdots

f_n(x) = \min(f(x),n)

In short we still have that f_1(x) \leq f_2(x) \leq \cdots \leq f_n(x) for all x.

Well I want \lim_{n \rightarrow \infty}f_n \rightarrow f for all x because if I have this situation I can use the monotone convergence theorem.

I'm just not sure if that's the case.
 
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BrainHurts said:
yes f \wedge n = \min(f, n)

so define

f_1(x) = \min(f_1(x),1)

f_2(x) = \min(f_2(x),2)

\vdots

f_n(x) = \min(f_n(x),n)

In short I believe we still have that f_1(x) \leq f_2(x) \leq \cdots \leq f_n(x) for all x.

Well I want \lim_{n \rightarrow \infty}(f_n \wedge n) \rightarrow f for all x because if I have this situation I can use the monotone convergence theorem.

I'm just not sure if that's the case.

I think it's all fine, except ##f_1(x) = \min(f_1(x),1)## doesn't do a good job of defining ##f_1##. ##f_1(x) = \min(f(x),1)## is much better. Are you asking why ##f_n \rightarrow f##?
 
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Sorry I just made some edits, I saw my mistake.
 
I think I'm covered, because I'll have to consider the case when f is finite and f is infinite correct?
 
BrainHurts said:
I think I'm covered, because I'll have to consider the case when f is finite and f is infinite correct?

Maybe. f is nonnegative. So either the integral exists or it's '+infinity'. I think in either case the sequence convergence is correct. If you allow things like '+infinity'. Think about a function like f(x)=1/x^2. Define f(0) however you want.
 
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