Proving the Product Rule for Differentiating x^n-1

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around proving the derivative of the function x^(n-1) using the product rule of differentiation. The participants are exploring the mathematical principles related to differentiation, specifically focusing on the product rule and its application to polynomial functions.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss defining functions f(x) and g(x) to apply the product rule effectively. There is uncertainty about how to start the differentiation process and confusion regarding the role of n-1 in the derivative. Some suggest using induction as a method to derive the formula, while others question the assumptions about prior knowledge of derivatives.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants offering hints and suggestions for approaching the problem. There is a recognition of the need to clarify definitions and assumptions, and some guidance has been provided regarding the use of induction. However, there is no explicit consensus on the best approach yet.

Contextual Notes

Participants express concern about the restrictions on using known derivatives and the implications of the problem's setup. There is a suggestion that the original poster may not be allowed to use the derivative of x^n directly, which adds complexity to the task.

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Homework Statement



Use the product rule to show that dx^n-1/dx = (n-1)x^n-2

Homework Equations



The general idea is..

If: h(x) = f(x)g(x)
Then: dh(x)/dx = f(x)dg(x)/dx + g(x)df(x)/d(x)

The Attempt at a Solution



It seems like a simple solution but everytime I attempt solving it I get confused and end up with a totally wrong answer
 
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Define f(x) and g(x) and everything will be easy.

Hint: [tex]a^n\cdot a^m = a^{n+m}[/tex]
 
that's the problem I'm getting..I'm not sure where to start to determine f(x) and g(x).
 
I don't understand this question. What's with the n-1? I'm assuming you don't know the derivative of xn, or at least you're not allowed to use it here, since otherwise you could just replace n with n-1 and get the answer immediately. I guess they want you to derive from scratch what the derivative of xn-1 is. Note (as above) this is equivalent to deriving what the derivative of xn is, which is much less silly. Do you know how to use induction, and can you think of how to apply it here?
 
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I don't understand this question. What's with the n-1? I'm assuming you don't know the derivative of xn, or at least you're not allowed to use it here, since otherwise you could just replace n with n-1 and get the answer immediately. I guess they want you to derive from scratch what the derivative of xn-1 is. Note (as above) this is equivalent to deriving what the derivative of xn is, which is much less silly. Do you know how to use induction, and can you think of how to apply it here?

Hm, since there's the product rule 'involved', I'd assume one can use the knowledge of what the derivative of x^n equals, but Perzik should know best what the problem asks for.
 
The point is to use "proof by induction".

If n= 1, what is [itex]dx/dx[/itex]? Does that match the formula? What is (1)x0?

Now assume that, for some k,[itex]dx^k/dx= k x^{k-1}[/itex]. Write [itex]x^{k+1}[/itex] as [itex]x(x^k)[/itex] and use the product rule.
 

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