Proving the Volume of a Sphere using Multiple Intergration

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The discussion revolves around proving the volume of a sphere using multiple integration techniques. The original poster presents the problem in the context of calculus and geometry, specifically focusing on the equation of a sphere and the methods of integration that could be employed.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss different methods for setting up the integral, including Cartesian coordinates and spherical coordinates. There are questions about whether to solve for z in terms of x and y or to use angles. Some participants express confusion over the definition of a sphere and its volume.

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The discussion is ongoing with various interpretations being explored. Some participants have provided guidance on using spherical coordinates, while others have raised concerns about the validity of the problem statement itself. There is no explicit consensus on the approach to take.

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Some participants question the assumptions regarding the definition of a sphere and its volume, with references to the sphere as a surface versus a solid. There are also considerations about the appropriateness of the problem based on the participants' level of instruction in spherical coordinates.

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Homework Statement



Using the thechnique of multiple intergration prove that the volume of a sphere is 4/3 Pi r^3.


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The Attempt at a Solution



Equation for sphere is x^2 + y^2 + z^2 = r^2

Do I solve it using for example z = root(r^2 - x^2 - y^2)

Or is it best do solve it using angle such as y=r sin (Theta)

I hope this makes sence.

Cheers Ash
 
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You can't prove that. The volume of a sphere is zero.
 
What do you mean because I am using the axis as the center of the sphere.

i was going to work out one octant and then multiply it by 8.
 
In many places a sphere is regarded as being a hollow ball so that might be why dextercioby said the volume is zero.

Anyway just use spherical coordinates and the answer should follow easily.
 
ye thanks for that. So just for you dextoer, to find the volume of a solid ball!

So Benny do you mean working it all out using y=r sin (Theta)

So having limits from 0 - Pi/2

Cheers
 
dextercioby is complete correct- and evil!

If you are going to use xyz- coordinates to find the volume of a ball of radius R, then you should take z going from [itex]-\sqrt{R^2- x^2- y^2}[/itex] to [itex]\sqrt{R^2- x^2- y^2}[/itex]. The projection of the ball onto the xy-plane is the disk (NOT "circle"! Don't want dextercioby complaining!) bounded by [itex]x^2+ y^2= R^2[/itex]. Let y go from [itex]-\sqrt{R^2- x^2}[/itex] to [itex]\sqrt{R^2- x^2}[/itex]. And x, of course, goes from -R to R.
 
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IMO if this is not an assessed question and you haven't been taught how to use spherical coordinates then don't do this question. If you use xyz coordinates, even if it's 'do-able,' it'll just be a very long exercise in algebraic manipulation, waste of time if you ask me.

If you use spherical coordinates then x = pcos(phi)sin(theta), y = psin(phi)sin(theta) and z = pcos(theta). The angle conventions vary but if you can visualise the situation then the range of theta and phi should be fairly straight forward.

If I recall correctly, the volume integral will be:

[tex] V = \int\limits_0^{2\pi } {\int\limits_0^\pi {\int\limits_0^r {\rho ^2 \sin \theta d\rho d\theta d\phi } } } [/tex]

You should check that the limits are correct and that you understand how everything comes together, otherwise the above won't be of much help to you.

Note: I don't believe this is giving too much away. If this is an assignment question full marks would not be given for just that much work and if it's just an exercise question then nothing is gained from just having the answer.
 

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