Proving Tr(XY) = Tr(YX) (Sakurai, p. 59, prob. 1.4)

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The discussion centers on proving the equality of traces, specifically that Tr(XY) = Tr(YX), using bra-ket algebra as outlined in Sakurai's textbook. Participants clarify that despite XY not being equal to YX, the properties of the trace function allow for this equality. The proof involves manipulating the definitions of trace and matrix multiplication, ultimately demonstrating that the order of multiplication does not affect the trace result.

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Homework Statement


You know {\rm{Tr}}(XY) = \limits^{?} {\rm{Tr}}(YX), but prove it, using the rules of bra-ket algebra, sucka. (The late Sakurai does not actually call his reader "sucka").


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{\mathop{\rm Tr}\nolimits} (X) \equiv \sum\nolimits_{a&#039;} {\left\langle {a&#039;} \right|X\left| {a&#039;} \right\rangle } [/itex]<br /> <br /> XY = Z = \left\langle {a&amp;#039;&amp;#039;} \right|Z\left| {a&amp;#039;} \right\rangle = \left\langle {a&amp;#039;&amp;#039;} \right|XY\left| {a&amp;#039;} \right\rangle = \sum\nolimits_{a&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;} {\left\langle {a&amp;#039;&amp;#039;} \right|X\left| {a&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;} \right\rangle \left\langle {a&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;} \right|Y\left| {a&amp;#039;} \right\rangle }<br /> <br /> <br /> <h2>The Attempt at a Solution</h2><br /> <br /> Obviously: XY ≠ YX, but Tr(XY) = Tr(YX). Therefore: there must be something about the trace that allows for this, and not about “X” and “Y”. We are therefore prompted to consider the definition of trace:<br /> <br /> {\mathop{\rm Tr}\nolimits} (X) \equiv \sum\nolimits_{a&amp;#039;} {\left\langle {a&amp;#039;} \right|X\left| {a&amp;#039;} \right\rangle }<br /> <br /> We are also reminded of what matrix multiplication “looks like”:<br /> XY = Z = \left\langle {a&amp;#039;&amp;#039;} \right|Z\left| {a&amp;#039;} \right\rangle = \left\langle {a&amp;#039;&amp;#039;} \right|XY\left| {a&amp;#039;} \right\rangle = \sum\nolimits_{a&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;} {\left\langle {a&amp;#039;&amp;#039;} \right|X\left| {a&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;} \right\rangle \left\langle {a&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;} \right|Y\left| {a&amp;#039;} \right\rangle }<br /> <br /> So: the trace of this is the sum of the diagonal elements: I now use the First equation in &quot;relevant equations&quot; to say:<br /> {\mathop{\rm Tr}\nolimits} (XY) = {\mathop{\rm Tr}\nolimits} \left( {\sum\nolimits_{a&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;} {\left\langle {a&amp;#039;&amp;#039;} \right|X\left| {a&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;} \right\rangle \left\langle {a&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;} \right|Y\left| {a&amp;#039;} \right\rangle } } \right) = \sum\nolimits_{b&amp;#039;} {\left( {\sum\nolimits_{a&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;} {\left\langle {b&amp;#039;} \right|X\left| {a&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;} \right\rangle \left\langle {a&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;} \right|Y\left| {b&amp;#039;} \right\rangle } } \right)}<br /> <br /> Now: we calculated Tr(XY), but if I calculated Tr(YX) the same way, it seems the traces being equal would be thwarted by XY not being the same as YX.<br /> <br /> Hmmm...
 
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Take your last line and put the <b'|X|a'''> term on the right side, and flip the order of the sums.
 
chrispb said:
Take your last line and put the <b'|X|a'''> term on the right side, and flip the order of the sums.

Oh! You can flip the two <||> because <b'|X|a'''> and <a'''|Y|b'> are scalars, is that why?
 
This seems a little longer than it should be:

\mathrm{Tr}(XY) = \sum_{a&#039;}\langle a&#039;|XY|a&#039;\rangle=\sum_{a&#039;,a&#039;&#039;}\langle a&#039;|X|a&#039;&#039;\rangle\langle a&#039;&#039;|Y|a&#039;\rangle = \sum_{a&#039;,a&#039;&#039;}\langle a&#039;&#039;|Y|a&#039;\rangle\langle a&#039;|X|a&#039;&#039;\rangle=\sum_{a&#039;&#039;}\langle a&#039;&#039;|YX|a&#039;&#039;\rangle = \mathrm{Tr}(YX)

I think your biggest problem is that you use

Z\rightarrow \langle a&#039;&#039;|XY|a&#039;\rangle

and somehow you come up with

{\sum_{a&#039;&#039;&#039;} \left\langle {a&#039;&#039;} \right|X\left| {a&#039;&#039;&#039;} \right\rangle \left\langle {a&#039;&#039;&#039;} \right|Y\left| {a&#039;} \right\rangle } } = \sum_{b&#039;} {\left( {\sum\nolimits_{a&#039;&#039;&#039;} {\left\langle {b&#039;} \right|X\left| {a&#039;&#039;&#039;} \right\rangle \left\langle {a&#039;&#039;&#039;} \right|Y\left| {b&#039;} \right\rangle } } \right)}

Which doesn't seem very good notation.
 
jdwood983 said:
This seems a little longer than it should be:

\mathrm{Tr}(XY) = \sum_{a&#039;}\langle a&#039;|XY|a&#039;\rangle=\sum_{a&#039;,a&#039;&#039;}\langle a&#039;|X|a&#039;&#039;\rangle\langle a&#039;&#039;|Y|a&#039;\rangle = \sum_{a&#039;,a&#039;&#039;}\langle a&#039;&#039;|Y|a&#039;\rangle\langle a&#039;|X|a&#039;&#039;\rangle=\sum_{a&#039;&#039;}\langle a&#039;&#039;|YX|a&#039;&#039;\rangle = \mathrm{Tr}(YX)

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Which doesn't seem very good notation.

Oh, that works very nicely. Thank you. I am trying to prepare for Fall 2010's grad QM course.
 

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