Proving Vector Space of Positive Quadruples of Real Numbers

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The discussion revolves around proving whether the set of all ordered quadruples of positive real numbers constitutes a vector space. Participants are examining the necessary conditions and axioms that define a vector space within the context of linear algebra.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Some participants suggest verifying the axioms of a vector space, while others question the validity of the set as a vector space due to the absence of additive inverses and the implications of scalar multiplication. There is also a focus on the requirements for defining a vector space, including the need for a field of scalars and operations.

Discussion Status

The discussion is exploring multiple interpretations regarding the definition of a vector space. Some participants provide guidance on the axioms, while others emphasize the limitations of the proposed set. There is no explicit consensus on whether the set qualifies as a vector space.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the original poster has only specified the set of vectors without detailing the necessary operations and scalars, which is crucial for determining the vector space status.

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how do you prove the set of vectors "all ordered quadruples of positive real numbers" make a vector space?
 
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you show that the axioms for a vector space are satisfied. I'm sure they're in your book. it shouldn't be very hard, just direct verification. you put ""s around the phrase ordered quadruples... that just means 4-dimensional vectors whose entries are real numbers, that's all.
 
I had to memorize these in Linear Algebra:

http://www.math.niu.edu/~beachy/courses/240/vectorspace.html
 
The problem is that it isn't a vector space since there is no additive inverse vector, nor is scalar multiplication valid (unless you redefine vector addition, the zero vector and th field over which the vector space is defined).
 
how do you prove the set of vectors "all ordered quadruples of positive real numbers" make a vector space?
You don't because they don't.

To make a vector space, you need 3 things:
(1) A set of "vectors".
(2) A field of "scalars".
(3) An "addition" operation that takes two vectors and produces a vector.
(4) A "multiplication" operation that takes a scalar and a vector and produces a vector.

You've only specified (1), so that's certainly not enough to make a vector space. Once you specify the other three things, then we can start discussing the question of whether it's a vector space or not.
 

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