Proving -x = x with Positive Even Integer n in R

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The problem involves proving that -x = x for every x in a ring R, given that there exists a positive even integer n such that x^n = x for all x in R. The discussion centers around the implications of this property in the context of ring theory.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss specific cases, such as n = 2 and n = 4, and explore the validity of proofs in different types of rings. Questions arise about the applicability of certain proofs in noncommutative rings and the role of commutativity in their reasoning.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided hints and explored alternative methods for proving the statement, particularly in relation to the properties of noncommutative rings. There is an ongoing examination of the assumptions and definitions involved in the problem.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the original proof for n = 2 may not hold in noncommutative rings, prompting further discussion about the implications of ring properties on the proof's validity.

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Homework Statement


Let R be a ring and suppose there exists a positive even integer n such that x^n = x for

every x in R. Show that -x = x for every x in R.


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The Attempt at a Solution


I solved the case where n = 2.

Let x be in R.

(x+x)^2= x+x = 2x,

(x+x)^2 = 4x^2 = 4x.

So 4x = 2x and 2x = 0. Done.


I tried using this same method when n = 4 and got nowhere.
 
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Let [tex]n = 2k[/tex]. What's [tex](-x)^{2k}[/tex]?

(By the way, the proof you have for [tex]n = 2[/tex] doesn't work for noncommutative rings. The above hint suggests a method that does. Can you see why?)
 
Thanks for the hint. That works. But why does my proof for n=2 not work for noncommutative rings? Since the only terms in the expansion of (x+x)^2 are powers of x, I don't think I ever used commutativity.
 
Since the only terms in the expansion of (x+x)^2 are powers of x, I don't think I ever used commutativity.

Yeah...you're right. I read your work as [tex](x + x)^2 = (2x)^2 = 2^2 x^2 = 4 x^2[/tex]; my only point was that in a noncommutative ring, [tex](ab)^k \neq a^k b^k[/tex] in general. However, I suppose it's true that [tex][(n \cdot 1) b]^k = (n^k \cdot 1) b^k[/tex] for natural numbers [tex]n[/tex].
 

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