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The discussion focuses on calculating the linear speed of a descending mass (1.0 kg) from a pulley system using both kinematic equations and the conservation of mechanical energy. The correct acceleration was determined to be 5.8 m/s using the formula a = 2mg/(2m + M), where M is the mass of the pulley (0.30 kg). The participant struggled to derive the same result using the conservation of mechanical energy approach, which involves equating potential energy loss (mgh) to kinetic energy (1/4 Mvcm² + 1/2 Mvcm²). The discrepancy in results highlights the complexities of applying energy conservation in rotational systems.

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An object descends from a pulley.
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Use the conservation of mechanical energy to find the linear speed of the descending mass (m = 1.0kg) after it has descended a vertical distance of 2.0m from rest. (For the pulley, M = 0.30kg and R = 0.15m. Neglect friction and mass of the string)

I solved this question not using the conservation of mechanical energy. At first I tried using it though and I wound up getting:
vcm = square root of (4/3 mgh/M)

However, I determined the acceleration using a pervious example:
a = 2mg/(2m + M)
and then used v2 = 2ax
and got 5.8m/s which is the right answer...

but I don't know how to solve this question using the conservation of mechanical energy.
 
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Let us take the body pulley Earth as our system. During the following event no external work is done on the system. So the mechanical energy of the system is conserved.
As the block slides an height h, then there is a loss of mgh amount of potential energy. Since there has been no loss of mechanical energy, the following potential energy is converted into Kinetic enegy. So you equate the change in potential energy to the change in Kinetic energy.
 
yes, i understand that part. is kinetic energy in this case equal to:
1/2 Icmw2 + 1/2 Mvcm2
and
I = 1/2MR2
so substituting v/R for w
mgh = 1/4 Mvcm2 + 1/2 Mvcm2

but solving for vcm here does not get me 5.8m/s
 

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