How Do You Calculate Forces on a Crate on an Inclined Plane?

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To calculate the forces on a crate on an inclined plane, a free body diagram (FBD) is essential for visualizing the forces acting on the crate. The normal force can be derived using the equations of motion, resulting in N = Fsinθ + mgcosθ when the acceleration in the y-direction is zero. The acceleration in the x-direction can be expressed as ax = -μ(Fsinθ + mgcosθ) + Fcosθ - mgsinθ, simplifying the analysis of motion along the incline. There is a discussion about the orientation of the FBD, with some suggesting that aligning it with the physical arrangement could simplify calculations. Overall, the calculations and reasoning presented appear to be correct, emphasizing the importance of proper diagram orientation in physics problems.
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Homework Statement


Crate of mass m is pushed horizontally with force F up an inclined plane of θ from ground. The plane has a friction coefficient of μ.

a) draw free body diagram of crate
b) derive expression for normal force
c) derive expression for acceleration

*** Use ONLY m, g, F, μ, θ ****

Homework Equations


ΣF = ma
|a| = √(ax2+ay2)

The Attempt at a Solution


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Included is a picture of the problem with my free body diagram.

I set the normal as the y-axis so that when solving ΣFy=may I can set ay=0.

ΣFx=max=-μN+Fcosθ-mgsinθ
ΣFy=may=N-Fsinθ-mgcosθ

ay=0 so N = Fsinθ+mgcosθ (part b)

Since ay=0, a=√ax2 = ax. Substituting N into ax:
max=-μ(Fsinθ+mgcosθ)+Fcosθ-mgsinθ

is this correct?
 
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Looks correct.
 
Looks correct to me as well although I would have drawn the fbd at the same angle. Nothing wrong with yours it just look odd.
 
CWatters said:
Looks correct to me as well although I would have drawn the fbd at the same angle. Nothing wrong with yours it just look odd.
If you do that then you will have two components of acceleration (in the x AND y direction) and so your definition of N would involve more variables than the ones they allow, or at least would involve a lot more manipulation to isolate N.
 
Nikstykal said:
If you do that then you will have two components of acceleration (in the x AND y direction) and so your definition of N would involve more variables than the ones they allow, or at least would involve a lot more manipulation to isolate N.
mfb was only commenting on the orientation of the FBD. You can draw it with the same orientation as the physical arrangement but still choose the X and Y axes as parallel and normal to the plane.
 
Oh... my bad
 
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