Q Factor & Run Time of Pendulum

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The discussion revolves around a cuckoo clock's pendulum, focusing on calculating the quality factor Q and determining the run time when powered by a battery. The problem involves concepts from mechanics and energy conservation.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to calculate the quality factor Q using stored and lost energy, questioning their results when the values yield an unexpected outcome.
  • Some participants suggest examining the potential energy of the pendulum bob and its relationship to the swing amplitude.
  • Others explore the energy calculations related to the battery's capacity and how it translates to the clock's operation over time.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, with some providing insights into the calculations for both parts A and B. There is a mix of attempts and clarifications, with no explicit consensus reached on the final answers.

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Participants are navigating the complexities of energy calculations, including potential energy and power, while also addressing the implications of using a battery versus a falling weight for power. The original poster expresses uncertainty about their calculations, indicating a need for further exploration of the underlying principles.

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Homework Statement


Consider a small cuckoo clock in which the length of the pendulum is L, suspending a mass m with a period of oscillation T. The clock is powered by a falling weight (mass = M) which falls 2 m between the daily windings. The amplitude of the swing is 0.2 radians.

(A) Determine the quality factor Q of the clock.

Data: m = 55 g; T = 1.0 s; M = 1066 g.

(B) How many days would the clock run if it were powered by a 1.5 volt battery with charge capacity equal to 1800 mAh?

Homework Equations



Q=2*\pi*\frac{stored}{lost/cycle}

Time=\frac{(mAh/1000)*(voltage)}{device power}

Power=J/s

The Attempt at a Solution



For part A my understanding is that the energy stored is the potential energy of M:

m*g*h=(1.066 kg)*9.81 (m/s2)*(2 meters)=20.915 Joules

Also, because that energy is dissipated each day, the energy lost per cycle (which is 1 second) is the stored energy (20.915 Joules) divided by the number of seconds in a day (24*60*60) or:

2.42*10-4 Joules

If I plug these values into my equation for Q I get a huge, nonsense number. What am I doing wrong?

For part B:
I have mAh and volts but I need power and what I'm getting for J/s above must be wrong.

Thank you!
 
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The energy stored per cycle of the clock is related to the swing of the pendulum. I'd look at the potential energy of the pendulum bob when its KE is zero...

Your energy per cycle of 2.42 x 10-4 J represents the energy lost each cycle that's replenished by the falling weight.

For part B, with the amp-hour and voltage rating of the battery you have the total energy stored in the battery. How many day's weight-falls does that energy represent?
 
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Ahh, thank you!

Well, the potential when K=0 is dictated by the length of the pendulum and the bob's mass.

T=2π\sqrt{L/g}

So, L=0.24849 meters

Using that in the eq for U:

U=mgL(1-cos(.2))=.002673

Plugging that in as the numerator in my eq for Q:

Q=69.4 which is correct!

For part B:

Energy=V*Amps*3600 seconds
Time=Energy/(2*1.066*9.81)=465 days

Thanks again!
 
oddjobmj said:
Ahh, thank you!

Well, the potential when K=0 is dictated by the length of the pendulum and the bob's mass.

T=2π\sqrt{L/g}

So, L=0.24849 meters

Using that in the eq for U:

U=mgL(1-cos(.2))=.002673

Plugging that in as the numerator in my eq for Q:

Q=69.4 which is correct!

For part B:

Energy=V*Amps*3600 seconds
Time=Energy/(2*1.066*9.81)=465 days

Thanks again!

Glad I could help!
 

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