Q: In a relative non-inertial reference frame, the fluid velocity is zero?

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The discussion revolves around fluid dynamics in a relative non-inertial reference frame, specifically questioning the conditions under which fluid velocity is considered zero. Participants reference equations related to momentum in non-inertial coordinates and explore the implications of assumptions made in the context of a moving cart.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants examine the reasoning behind the assumption that fluid velocity is zero in a non-inertial frame, questioning the implications of this assumption on fluid dynamics as the cart's velocity changes. Some express confusion about the mathematical representation of fluid velocity over time.

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The discussion is active, with participants sharing their interpretations and questioning the validity of assumptions. Some have offered insights into the reasoning behind the assumptions, while others seek further clarification on specific equations and their implications.

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There is a focus on the assumptions made in the problem, particularly regarding the fluid entering velocity as the cart accelerates. Participants are navigating the complexities of non-inertial reference frames and the associated equations without reaching a consensus.

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Homework Statement
It's not apparent why the fluid velocity in the relative non-inertial reference frame is zero.
Relevant Equations
Momentum equation in non-inertial coordinates
Q: Regarding item (4), my understanding aligns with (eq_1), where M is a constant. However, why does ##\left( \frac{\partial}{\partial t}u_{xyz} \right)## in (eq_1) equal 0?

$$
\frac{\partial}{\partial t}\int_{CV}^{}{u_{xyz}}\rho d\forall =\frac{\partial}{\partial t}\left( u_{xyz}\cdot M \right) =M\left( \frac{\partial}{\partial t}u_{xyz} \right) =0\cdots \text{(}eq\_1\text{)}
$$
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I believe that the reason for assumption 4 is to eliminate the reduction of fluid entering velocity as the cart increases its horizontal velocity.
 
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Lnewqban said:
I believe that the reason for assumption 4 is to eliminate the reduction of fluid entering velocity as the cart increases its horizontal velocity.
Thank you for the explanation. So, for now, let's consider it as an assumption for simplifying the problem.
 
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tracker890 Source h said:
Homework Statement: It's not apparent why the fluid velocity in the relative non-inertial reference frame is zero.
Relevant Equations: Momentum equation in non-inertial coordinates

Q: Regarding item (4), my understanding aligns with (eq_1), where M is a constant. However, why does ##\left( \frac{\partial}{\partial t}u_{xyz} \right)## in (eq_1) equal 0?

$$
\frac{\partial}{\partial t}\int_{CV}^{}{u_{xyz}}\rho d\forall =\frac{\partial}{\partial t}\left( u_{xyz}\cdot M \right) =M\left( \frac{\partial}{\partial t}u_{xyz} \right) =0\cdots \text{(}eq\_1\text{)}
$$
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What you have written here is incorrect. The integral term on the LHS of the governing equation from the example is what represents the solid mass ##M## momentum accumulation rate (when solid mass is contained inside the control volume - that is accelerating)
 

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