QFT, Noether and Invariance, Complex fields, Equal mass

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The discussion revolves around a question related to quantum field theory (QFT), specifically focusing on the invariance of complex fields and the implications of equal mass in transformations. The original poster expresses difficulty in understanding part d of the problem, particularly regarding the transformation of fields and their real and imaginary components.

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  • The original poster attempts to analyze the transformation of fields by breaking them into real and imaginary parts and comparing their behavior under certain symmetries. They question whether a transformation can be a function of both fields, expressing uncertainty about the validity of this approach.

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Some participants provide references to external solutions and resources, indicating that the exercise is well-known and documented. However, the original poster's specific question about the nature of transformations remains partially unanswered, with some participants suggesting that it is indeed possible for transformations to involve multiple fields.

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The original poster notes the challenge of solving QFT problems without reference materials, highlighting the complexity of the topic and the reliance on external sources for guidance.

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Hi
I am pretty stuck on part d.

I've broken the fields into real and imaginary parts as asked to and tried to compare where they previously canceled to the situation now- see below.

However I can't really see this giving me a hint of any sort unless the transformation of a field can be a function of both fields- but I don't believe this is allowed? Please correct me if I am wrong- please see below.

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I've broken the fields into real and imaginary parts as asked to and tried to compare where they previously canceled to the sitatuation now. I've wrote ##Im (\phi*)= -Im (\phi) ## to save introducing ##(/phi*) ## ofc. I see that the extra symmetries due to ##m_1=m_2## must be s.t the symmetries of ##\phi_1## and ##\phi_2## can now cancel via summation in the ##m^2## term rather than having to have the invariance hold sepereately, whilst at the same time preserving the symmetry of the derivaitve terms. I therefore suspect the solution may be ##sin ## or ##cos## now sufficing alone without the exponential, separately being able to have the imaginary and real parts cancelling.
Looking at the ##m_1^2## for ##\phi_1## term previously I had (the first bracket corresponding to ##phi_1## transformation and the second ##phi*_1## and so the transformation is negative exponential in the second bracket) :
##m_1^2 (cos \alpha Re(\phi) - sin \alpha Im(\phi) + i sin \alpha Re(\phi) + i cos \alpha Im(\phi)) . (cos \alpha Re(\phi) - sin \alpha Im(\phi) + i cos \alpha Im(\phi)) + i sin \alpha Re(\phi) ##

and the result of expanding this out and looking at the real parts is that the cos^2 sin^2 identity is used to get ##Im(\phi)^2+Re(\phi)^2## hence invariant and the cross-terms vanish (and I suspect the same is true for the imaginary parts).

I can't really think how to use this as a hint though, unless you are a allowed a ##phi_1## transformation that is a function of both ##phi_1## and ##phi_2##, but I don't think this is allowed?

a thousand thanks to you my friend.
 

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You can find this exercise and its solution in several references in the web, I believe it appears in P&S, Srednicki in other words with a good search through google, you can find a solution to this exercise.
In fact this exercise appears in Radovanovic's problem book, problem 5.11.
 
MathematicalPhysicist said:
You can find this exercise and its solution in several references in the web, I believe it appears in P&S, Srednicki in other words with a good search through google, you can find a solution to this exercise.
In fact this exercise appears in Radovanovic's problem book, problem 5.11.

many thanks for your reply, I had no idea about this book !
 
however, not to sure why no one replied to my question can the transformation be a function of both fields, quick question, yes or no answer, would have helped a lot, but hey..
 
binbagsss said:
however, not to sure why no one replied to my question can the transformation be a function of both fields, quick question, yes or no answer, would have helped a lot, but hey..
With these type of QFT questions it's sort of impossible to solve without a reference at hand... :-D
 
binbagsss said:
however, not to sure why no one replied to my question can the transformation be a function of both fields, quick question, yes or no answer, would have helped a lot, but hey..
Yes, in general it is possible to do a transfer that contains all the fields.
 
MathematicalPhysicist said:
With these type of QFT questions it's sort of impossible to solve without a reference at hand... :-D[/QUOTE
I don't suppose you know whether a similar sort of solution book may exist for string theory ?

Thanks ( in particular t-duality, massless states ) ?
 
You might be interested in the solutions to Zwiebach's book on string theory.
 
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There's also a partial solution manual to Polchinski's 2-set volume, just type you know what into google.
 
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