QM- A bit of manipulation of expectation values.

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The discussion focuses on deriving the variance of an observable \( \hat{Q} \) in quantum mechanics, specifically showing that \( (\Delta \hat{Q})^2 = \langle \hat{Q}^2 \rangle - \langle \hat{Q} \rangle^2 \). The participants confirm the manipulation of expectation values, emphasizing that the expectation value of an expectation value simplifies to the expectation value itself. The derivation involves recognizing that \( \langle \hat{Q} \rangle \) is a constant, leading to the conclusion that the variance can be expressed in terms of the squared expectation values.

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Homework Statement


The variance of an observable Qhat in a state with wavefunction psi is,

(delta Qhat)2=<(Qhat-<Qhat>)2>

Show that this can be written as,

(delta Qhat)2=<Qhat2>-<Qhat>2

Homework Equations



As above.

The Attempt at a Solution



(delta Qhat)2=<Qhat2-Qhat<Qhat>-<Qhat>Qhat+<Qhat>2>
L.H.S=<Qhat2-2Qhat<Qhat>+<Qhat>2>
 
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Right, you've got it

[itex]\langle \hat{Q}^2 -2\hat{Q}\langle \hat{Q} \rangle +\langle \hat{Q} \rangle \rangle[/itex]

Now recognize that [itex]\langle X \rangle[/itex] is just a number (the expectation value) and thus the expectation value of an expectation value is just the expectation value (that's a mouth full) i.e. [itex]\langle \langle \hat{Q} \rangle \rangle = \langle \hat{Q} \rangle[/itex] and so on. Therefore you get:

[itex]\langle \hat{Q}^2 \rangle - 2 \langle \hat{Q} \rangle \langle \hat{Q} \rangle + \langle \hat{Q} \rangle ^2[/itex]

and I assume you can take it from there
 
Yep that helps. Thanks Maverick.
 

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