Quantization of vector field in the Coulomb gauge

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The discussion centers on the quantization of the vector field in the Coulomb gauge, specifically addressing the mathematical inconsistencies that arise when applying equal-time commutation relations. Participants explore the implications of the divergence of the vector potential and electric field, as well as the necessary modifications to canonical commutation relations.

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  • Technical explanation
  • Mathematical reasoning
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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions how to properly take the divergence of the commutation relation, noting an inconsistency when applying the divergence to the left-hand side while the right-hand side does not yield zero.
  • Another participant suggests that writing the electric field as \(\vec E = -\nabla\phi\) could resolve the issue by canceling certain terms.
  • A later reply emphasizes that the differentiation should only be with respect to \(x\) and not \(y\), indicating a misunderstanding in the application of the derivative.
  • A participant references Kaku's QFT, which discusses the need to modify canonical commutation relations to ensure the right-hand side remains transverse, as the divergence of the vector potential is zero.
  • It is noted that some texts clarify this by explicitly including a "transverse part" operator in the commutation relations.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the correct approach to the divergence and the implications for the commutation relations. While some propose solutions, no consensus is reached on the resolution of the initial mathematical inconsistency.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights limitations in understanding the application of divergences in the context of quantization, particularly regarding the treatment of the electric field and vector potential in the Coulomb gauge.

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I have a technical question and at the time being I can't ask it to a professor. So, I'm here:

If I try to quantize the vector field in the Coulomb gauge (radiation gauge)

A_0(x)=0,\quad \vec\nabla\cdot\vec A=0.

by imposing the equal-time commutation relation

[A_i(x),E_j(y)]=-i\delta_{ij}\delta(\vec x-\vec y)

then I should find

\partial_i[A_i,E_j]=[\vec\nabla\cdot\vec A,E_j]=0,
since \vec\nabla\cdot\vec A=0, which is inconsistent with \partial_i\delta_{ij}\delta(\vec x-\vec y)\neq 0.

My question is simply how to take this divergence

\partial_i[A_i,E_j]=[\vec\nabla\cdot\vec A,E_j]

I'm getting
\partial_i[A_i,E_j]=[\vec\nabla\cdot\vec A,E_j]+A_i\partial_i E_j-(\partial_i E_j)A_i .
I must be missing something in the math here. Can anyone help me?
 
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I don't remember much of this, but if you can write \vec E=-\nabla\phi, then the last two terms cancel each other out.
 
diracologia said:
I have a technical question and at the time being I can't ask it to a professor. So, I'm here:

If I try to quantize the vector field in the Coulomb gauge (radiation gauge)

A_0(x)=0,\quad \vec\nabla\cdot\vec A=0.

by imposing the equal-time commutation relation

[A_i(x),E_j(y)]=-i\delta_{ij}\delta(\vec x-\vec y)

then I should find

\partial_i[A_i,E_j]=[\vec\nabla\cdot\vec A,E_j]=0,
since \vec\nabla\cdot\vec A=0, which is inconsistent with \partial_i\delta_{ij}\delta(\vec x-\vec y)\neq 0.

My question is simply how to take this divergence

\partial_i[A_i,E_j]=[\vec\nabla\cdot\vec A,E_j]

I'm getting
\partial_i[A_i,E_j]=[\vec\nabla\cdot\vec A,E_j]+A_i\partial_i E_j-(\partial_i E_j)A_i .
I must be missing something in the math here. Can anyone help me?

\partial^{x}_i[A_i(x),E_j(y)]=[\vec\nabla\cdot\vec A,E_j(y)]

you are not differentiating with respect to y. If you want to avoid confussion just set y = 0.

Sam
 
Kaku's QFT p.110 seems to be addressing your question:

"If we impose canonical commutation relations, we find a further complication.

[Ai(x,t), Ej(y,t)] = −iδijδ(x⃗ − y⃗)

However, this cannot be correct because we can take the divergence of both sides of the equation. The divergence of Ai is zero, so the left-hand side is zero, but the right hand side is not. As a result, we must modify the canonical commutation relations as follows:

[Ai(x,t), Ej(y,t)] = −iδijδ(x⃗ − y⃗)

where the right-hand side must be transverse; that is:

δij = ∫d3k/(2π)3 exp(ik·(x-x') (δij - kikj/k2)

[In other words, in Coulomb gauge only the transverse part is quantized, so only the transverse part appears in the commutator.]

EDIT: In other books they make this even more explicit by putting a "transverse part" operator on both A and E on the left hand side.
 
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Thank you all,

Sam, you solve my puzzle. I just puted \partial_i and forgot that this is a differentiation only over x. Shame on me!
 

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