Quantum entanglement and Two slit experiment

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around quantum entanglement and the two-slit experiment, particularly focusing on the implications of consciousness in wavefunction collapse and the potential for quantum effects at the macro level. Participants explore theoretical and conceptual questions rather than providing definitive answers.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Debate/contested
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants question whether quantum entanglement can occur at the macro level, suggesting that decoherence typically prevents this, though it is not deemed impossible.
  • There is uncertainty regarding whether consciousness plays a role in wavefunction collapse, with some arguing it is generally not believed to be a factor.
  • One participant asserts that consciousness is not necessary for wavefunction collapse, citing that any interaction can cause this collapse.
  • Another participant raises the idea that if consciousness does not cause collapse, then what does, and whether it has been conclusively proven that consciousness does not influence this process.
  • Some participants discuss the implications of photon detectors and their role in observing wavefunctions, noting that the interference pattern is destroyed regardless of conscious observation.
  • There is a mention of the Copenhagen Interpretation and the dual nature of photons, highlighting the complexity of understanding quantum behavior.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the role of consciousness in wavefunction collapse and the nature of quantum entanglement at the macro level. There is no consensus on these issues, and the discussion remains unresolved.

Contextual Notes

The discussion includes various assumptions about the nature of consciousness, quantum mechanics, and the interpretation of experimental results. Participants reference theoretical frameworks and interpretations without reaching definitive conclusions.

  • #31
San K said:
I think it can be proved by the fact that we could have a series of instruments making the measurement without human (consciousness) looking at it.

at some point when the human reads from these instruments he/she would see the results happened prior to his/her looking.

one could still argue that the instruments results only happened when a human looked...but then we could have a clock.

one could argue that even the clock happened when the human looked...but then

you have a clock and so many instruments...now not all of them could be waiting for a human consciousnesses to trigger their results...

second if someone applied the above argument then it would be applicable to the whole universe and the universe did not exist till human consciousness looked at it...

long story short...(most/all) things happen in the universe without humans/life/consciousness looking at it...

DrChinese said:
Heh... you noticed!

(Always trying to be polite to new posters... they may not appreciate some of us sharks.)

So just wondering, itsonelouder... is eleven really one louder than ten?

:biggrin: it is, but not as loud as 12, which is really pushing it!
 
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