Quantum Entanglement Violates the Laws of Physics

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the implications of quantum entanglement on classical physics principles, particularly focusing on energy conservation and force transmission using a domino analogy. Participants explore whether entanglement could lead to scenarios that violate established physical laws.

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  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant argues that quantum entanglement implies a violation of energy conservation, suggesting that one push could produce more movement than the input force, which they believe is not permissible in physics.
  • Another participant challenges this view by stating that if two pushes are applied to one domino, it would move further, thus questioning the initial claim about force absorption and its implications for entangled systems.
  • A later reply asserts that spin entanglement conserves angular momentum, implying that entanglement does not lead to violations of physical laws.
  • One participant emphasizes that the domino model used to illustrate the argument is flawed, stating that energy and momentum are conserved in the context of entangled systems.
  • Another participant counters the initial argument by pointing out that multiple dominos can indeed be pushed over with one push, suggesting that the original claim is incorrect.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express disagreement regarding the implications of quantum entanglement on classical physics, with no consensus reached on whether entanglement violates established laws.

Contextual Notes

Participants rely on classical mechanics principles to frame their arguments, but the discussion does not resolve the complexities of how quantum mechanics interacts with these principles.

JustThinking
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We've all seen the example: Push one domino over. It falls. But so does another domino way off to the side. Only one is pushed, yet two fall.
The problem with this is that only one push's worth of energy was expended. One push's worth of input cannot produce two push's worth of output, for this would violate the law that says you can't get more movement out of something than the amount of force you exert onto it (to put is very simply). Quantum entanglement would mean miraculously multiplying the input so as to get more output for free. I don't think physics would allow that.
 
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Now someone may say, "If you apply two push's worth of force on the one domino, then both would fall." But that still doesn't make sense, because if you apply two push's worth of force on one domino, then it itself would move twice as far as from one push's worth. So that one domino is always absorbing the total amount of force you exert upon it, leaving zero force available to move the second domino without violating a law.

If entanglement exists, everything that is entangled would be harder to push, pull, lift or destroy.
 
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JustThinking said:
Now someone may say, "If you apply two push's worth of force on the one domino, then both would fall." But that still doesn't make sense, because if you apply two push's worth of force on one domino, then it itself would move twice as far as from one push's worth. So that one domino is always absorbing the total amount of force you exert upon it, leaving zero force available to move the second domino without violating a law.

If entanglement exists, everything that is entangled would be harder to push, pull, lift or destroy.
On the contrary, spin entanglement conserves angular momentum.

Your domino model is wrong. The vertical dominos are meta-stable and fall under the influence of gravity if disturbed. Energy and momentum are conserved. High school physics.
 
JustThinking said:
one domino is always absorbing the total amount of force you exert upon it, leaving zero force available to move the second domino without violating a law.

If your argument were correct, it would show that multiple dominos cannot be pushed over with one push. But, as you yourself admit, this actually can happen. Therefore your argument is obviously wrong.

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