Quantum Physics: Heinsburg Uncertainty

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The discussion revolves around a problem in quantum physics related to the Heisenberg uncertainty principle, specifically concerning the minimum duration of a laser pulse given a certain uncertainty in energy. The problem involves calculations using the relationship between energy and wavelength of light.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss various methods for calculating the energy of photons from wavelength and how to apply the uncertainty principle. There are attempts to substitute values into the uncertainty equation, but some participants express confusion about the constants and formulas used.

Discussion Status

Several participants are actively engaging with the problem, offering different approaches and questioning the accuracy of calculations. There is a recognition of potential misunderstandings regarding the constants involved in the uncertainty principle and the interpretation of the results, but no consensus has been reached on the correct method.

Contextual Notes

Participants note issues with the precision of constants and the interpretation of the uncertainty in energy versus the duration of the pulse. There is also mention of a typographical error in the thread title that may affect clarity.

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Homework Statement


A laser produces light of wavelength 540 nm in an ultrashort pulse. What is the minimum duration of the pulse if the minimum uncertainty in the energy of the photons is 1.0%?


Homework Equations


ΔEΔt ≥ hbar / 2


The Attempt at a Solution


Now I tried a couple ways here:

1. Using Vx = hbar / 2*Pi*elemental charge*0.010%*d giving me 11.7 m/s but soon realized that seemed wrong.
2. Since the uncertainty in energy is 1.0%, i tried substituting it in as ΔE but my end result was wrong.

To be honest, I may be overthinking this one but I am kinda stumped as to where to go from here. I greatly appreciate your time!

Thank you!
 
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Is Heinsburg a town in Germany?
 
Well first you convert wavelength to energy using

E=h\dfrac{c}{\lambda}

Then you know what the precise energy of the pulse is supposed to be. But the energy is known to deviate by at least 1% from this value, so you calculate this deviaton by taking 1% of what you get from the energy-wavelength relation.

That 1% is your uncertainty in energy, \Delta E.

What's left then is just plug in \Delta E to Heisenberg's uncertainty and calculate \Delta t.
 
So going through the process,

E = (6.626*10^-34) * (3.0 x 10^8 / 5.40 x 10^-7) = 3.68 * 10^-19

Then taking 1% of it = 3.68 x 10^-21

Then plugging it into Δt = h / 2*Pi*3.68 x 10^-21 = 2.86 x 10^-14

I tried this and it was marked wrong, could my units be off or am I again using the wrong formula?

Thanks again everyone =D

EDIT: Yeah I mispelled the title by quite a bit
 
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I am never sure about what constant should be used in Heisenberg's uncertainty. Anyways, in your relevant equations part, you use hbar/2 but in your solution h/2pi = hbar, so your missing a "1/2".

Another thing is that the result of these calculations is Δt, uncertainty in time (duration).What you are being asked for, is the minimum duration of the pulse.

Pulse duration could be given by \tau\pm\Delta t and in this case you're asked for \tau-\Delta t.
 

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