Quantum random number generator with radioactive decay

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The discussion focuses on building a quantum random number generator utilizing a Geiger-Muller tube and thorium-containing tungsten welding rods. Key points include the inability to completely shield the tube from background radiation, the possibility of false triggers without radioactive decay, and the challenges in achieving a count rate of 100-150 events per second with the chosen materials. Additionally, external parameters do not influence radioactive decay, and alternative noise sources like Johnson or shot noise are suggested as simpler options.

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  • Understanding of Geiger-Muller tube functionality
  • Knowledge of radioactive materials, specifically thorium and tungsten
  • Familiarity with radiation shielding techniques
  • Basic concepts of quantum random number generation
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  • Research Geiger-Muller tube shielding materials and designs
  • Explore the properties and applications of thorium in radiation detection
  • Investigate alternative noise sources for quantum random number generation
  • Learn about the principles of radioactive decay and its measurement
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This discussion is beneficial for physicists, engineers, and hobbyists interested in quantum computing, radiation detection, and the practical applications of radioactive materials in technology.

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hello!

i'm planning to build such a generator, but i have some questions:

1. what dimensions and materials are needed to shield one typical geiger-muller tube
from the background radiation?

2. even with the complete protection, is it possible that the counter tube will trigger
without any radioactive decay present?

3. I'm thinking about to use thorium as radioactive source in form of wolfram welder rods
(these rods are 98 percent wolfram and 2 percent thorium oxide) and hoping for 100-150
events per sec, is this possible?

4. i read that some external parameters can affect the radioactive decay, but my goal is
to protect my radioactive material from any such external sources, so again what kind of
protections should i use? i can provide some kind of isolation box with constant temperature
but what about the high speed particles?


thanks
 
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1. You can't. Even 2000 feet below the Earth in a mine there is background.

2. Yes, the tube can trigger without a real decay.

3. My experience with welding rods is that it's easy to get tens of Hz of counts. 100 or 150 might be tricky.

4. External parameters do not affect radioactive decay.

Wouldn't it be easier to use a noise source? Johnson or shot noise could be used.
 

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