Query on the Euler Theorem for Rigid Body Rotation

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around Euler's Theorem for rigid body rotation, specifically addressing its implications and the relationship between displacement and rotation. Participants explore the mathematical foundations of the theorem, including eigenvalues and the necessity of multiple angles for orientation.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Conceptual clarification
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions how the proof of the +1 eigenvalue establishes the equivalence between 'any displacement' and 'the rotation' as stated in Goldstein's book.
  • Another participant clarifies that while Euler's theorem allows for a single rotation about an axis, specifying that axis requires two angles, leading to the need for three Euler angles in total.
  • A different participant reiterates the argument that the presence of a +1 eigenvalue indicates an invariant eigenvector, which aligns with the concept of rotation about an axis.
  • One participant expresses that while they understand the concept of the +1 eigenvalue, they still find the assumption of equivalence between rotation and arbitrary displacement unproven in Goldstein's exposition.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the relationship between displacement and rotation, with some agreeing on the necessity of multiple angles for orientation while others challenge the assumptions made in the proof of the theorem.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved questions regarding the assumptions made in Goldstein's proof and the direct connection between the eigenvalue and arbitrary displacement. The discussion highlights the complexity of relating theoretical concepts to practical applications.

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Hi,
I am having some problems conceptualizing the Euler's Theorem. Any help will be greatly appreciated.
In Goldstein's book the Euler's theorem is stated as 'Any displacement of a rigid body, whose one point remains fixed throughout, is a rotation about some axis', then he has proven that the orthogonal matrix must have an Eigen Value of +1 for a proper rotation.
1. My question is how does this proves the theorem ?
I have understood the logic behind the +1 eigen value, but could not able to find any equivalence between 'Any Displacement' and 'The rotation'.
2. Another one is that, why should we need three Euler angles for the orientation of a body because from Euler's theorem it can be obtained by only one rotation about some axis ?
Thanks
 
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In answer to your second question, Euler's theorem says that any rotation can be specified by a single rotation about some axis. But it takes two angles to specify the orientation of that 'some axis' relative to your coordinate system axes, so three angles in total are required.
 
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Shan K said:
Hi,
I am having some problems conceptualizing the Euler's Theorem. Any help will be greatly appreciated.
In Goldstein's book the Euler's theorem is stated as 'Any displacement of a rigid body, whose one point remains fixed throughout, is a rotation about some axis', then he has proven that the orthogonal matrix must have an Eigen Value of +1 for a proper rotation.
1. My question is how does this proves the theorem ?
I have understood the logic behind the +1 eigen value, but could not able to find any equivalence between 'Any Displacement' and 'The rotation'.
2. Another one is that, why should we need three Euler angles for the orientation of a body because from Euler's theorem it can be obtained by only one rotation about some axis ?
Thanks
I can try and answer part 1. I hope I understood your question. Here is the argument:
Once you agree that the matrix has an eigenvalue of +1, that means that there is an eigenvector, which is invariant under that transformation. That is precisely what you mean by a rotation about an axis. Any vector along that axis is unchanged by the transformation.
 
Chandra Prayaga said:
I can try and answer part 1. I hope I understood your question. Here is the argument:
Once you agree that the matrix has an eigenvalue of +1, that means that there is an eigenvector, which is invariant under that transformation. That is precisely what you mean by a rotation about an axis. Any vector along that axis is unchanged by the transformation.
Thanks Chandra Prayaga for your reply. I have understood this concept but it doesn't prove the equivalence between 'Rotation' and 'any displacement' because in Goldstein they have assumed this equivalence first and then proved that for a rotation there must be an axis, through the proof of +1 eigen value.
They have not proved that this +1 eigen value corresponds to that arbitrary displacement.
Thanks
 
phyzguy said:
In answer to your second question, Euler's theorem says that any rotation can be specified by a single rotation about some axis. But it takes two angles to specify the orientation of that 'some axis' relative to your coordinate system axes, so three angles in total are required.
Thanks Phyzguy.
 

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