Quesitons on Gas firing a lab furnace

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In summary, the conversation discusses the use of a carbon crucible in a small furnace for technical ceramics work. The limit temperature of the carbon crucible is ~ 430 C in an oxidizing atmosphere and ~ 2800 C in a neutral atmosphere. The person plans to vent the furnace to the atmosphere and use bottled O2 as a source of oxygen for the burner. They inquire about the potential degradation of the crucible and ask for suggestions for suitable fuel gases. One suggestion is to use a slightly higher pressure inside the furnace to prevent oxidation and to maintain a stoichiometric mixture of fuel and oxygen. Another suggestion is to fill the crucible with a neutral gas like nitrogen or helium before burning the mixture. Further research is needed to design
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I am in the process of building a small furnace aimed at technical ceramics work, and I would like to use a carbon crucible. The carbon crucible's limit temperature is ~ 430 C in an oxidizing atmosphere and ~ 2800 C in a neutral atmosphere. My plans are to have the furnace vent to atmosphere so that it will not be under a vacuum. I intend to use bottled O2 to supply oxygen to the burner. If I adjust the mixture of fuel gas and oxygen so that the flame itself burns neutral, will this be enough to reduce degradation of the carbon crucible to the point where the crucible will survive temperatures in excess of 430C or will O2 from the atmosphere result in severe degradation of the crucible?

Also, I am in search of a fuel gas. My first thought is Acetylene; however, I understand that Praxair makes a gas called "http://www.praxair.com/praxair.nsf/0/3C9FBEECABD517C6852570610002D0C4/$file/P-10116.pdf" " which claims a slightly higher temperature than acetylene when combined with O2. As well, Starflame C is supposed to produce considerably less soot and be more stable than acetylene. Does anyone have experience with this gas?

What other fuel gases might be suitable for the application?

Thanks in advance for your help.
 
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I have no personal experience in the area, but my best guess is that diffusion of gases is going to be a problem. Gases have a tendency to mix together, thus you're likely to have oxidation as long as the furnace is open to the atmosphere.

I think that if you have the furnace at a slightly higher pressure than the outside air it will be less of an issue. When doing air cooling for PC cases you can keep some of the dust out by having the air pressure inside the case higher than outside: Air flows out of the gaps thus preventing dust from entering, and where the air enters through fans, the dust can be filtered out. I think the same thing could apply to your furnace. If you have a pressure gradient then you could push the gas out.

Also it will more than likely be important to have a stoichiometric mixture of whatever fuel you chose to use. Too much fuel and you have an explosion risk, too much oxygen and your crucible disintegrates.

If you were to fill the crucible with a neutral gas like nitrogen (I'm not sure it's neutral at super high temperatures) or helium, and then burn your mixture in it, you shouldn't have too much problem with oxidation. You could maybe have a pressure release valve to keep the pressure from climbing to much as you added your fuel air mixture. You might have to make it double walled too if you want to keep the outside from oxidizing.

I'd have to do a lot more research before I could help you design this, but that's my initial thoughts on the matter.
 

1. How does gas firing work in a lab furnace?

Gas firing in a lab furnace involves the use of a gas burner to ignite and heat the furnace. The gas burner is connected to a gas supply line and is controlled by a valve to regulate the flow of gas. The gas is mixed with air and ignited, creating a flame that heats the furnace.

2. What type of gas is typically used for firing a lab furnace?

The most commonly used gas for firing a lab furnace is natural gas, which is a mixture of methane, ethane, propane, and other hydrocarbons. However, other gases such as propane, butane, and hydrogen can also be used depending on the specific needs of the furnace.

3. How do you control the temperature of a lab furnace when using gas firing?

The temperature of a lab furnace can be controlled by adjusting the amount of gas being supplied to the burner. This is typically done through a valve that regulates the flow of gas. The temperature can also be monitored and controlled using a thermocouple or other temperature sensing device.

4. Are there any safety precautions to consider when using gas firing in a lab furnace?

Yes, there are several safety precautions to consider when using gas firing in a lab furnace. These include ensuring proper ventilation to prevent the build-up of harmful gases, regularly checking for gas leaks, and following proper procedures for lighting and shutting off the gas burner.

5. Can gas firing be used for all types of lab furnaces?

Gas firing can be used for most types of lab furnaces, including muffle furnaces, tube furnaces, and box furnaces. However, certain types of furnaces may require different types of gas or may not be suitable for gas firing at all. It is important to consult the manufacturer's instructions for the specific furnace being used.

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