Question about converting x = pi/6 to polar form

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The original poster attempts to convert the angle t = pi/6 into polar form using the relationships between Cartesian and polar coordinates. The problem involves understanding the implications of using trigonometric identities and the potential pitfalls of manipulating equations.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the original poster's method of using cosine to derive relationships between x and y, and question the legality of squaring both sides of an equation. They also explore the alternative approach using tangent and its implications.

Discussion Status

Some participants provide insights into the original poster's reasoning and highlight the introduction of extraneous solutions through squaring. There is an acknowledgment of the similarities between the two approaches, but also a recognition of the need for caution when manipulating equations.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the original poster's method led to additional solutions that may not be valid in the context of the problem, emphasizing the importance of the chosen trigonometric function in the conversion process.

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Homework Statement


Convert t = pi/6 into polar form.


Homework Equations


x = r*cos(t)
y = r*sin(t)



The Attempt at a Solution


t = pi/6
cos(t) = cos(pi/6)
cos(t) = sqrt(3)/2
x/r = sqrt(3)/2
sqrt(3)r = 2x
sqrt(3)sqrt(x^2 + y^2) = 2x
sqrt(3x^2 + 3y^2) = 2x
3x^2 + 3y^2 = 4x^2
0 = x^2 - 3y^2

However, the book says to use tangent instead, as shown below:

t = pi/6
tan t = sqrt(3)/3
y/x = sqrt(3)/3
sqrt(3)x - 3y = 0

This is the correct answer. However, I do not understand why the answer I obtained is incorrect. Is it legal to cosine both sides as I did?
 
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Actually the answer you got and the correct answer are nearly the same.

[tex]\sqrt{3}x-3y=0[/tex]

[tex]x-\sqrt{3}y=0[/tex]

[tex]x=\sqrt{3}y[/tex]

[tex]x^2=3y^2[/tex]

[tex]x^2-3y^2=0[/tex]

which is what you had. The only problem is that when you squared both sides you have introduced more solutions which are not correct. If we go backwards such as taking the square root of both sides we get:

[tex]x^2=3y^2[/tex]

[tex]x=\pm \sqrt{3} y[/tex]

and the solutions [itex]x=-\sqrt{3}y[/itex] are not correct.

It is difficult to avoid squaring in this line you had: [tex]\sqrt{3(x^2 + y^2)} = 2x[/tex] which is why using the tangent is the best approach.
 
Ahh, that makes a lot of sense. Thanks a lot!
 
You're welcome :smile:
 

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