Question about implicit function theorem

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The discussion revolves around the implicit function theorem and its application in differentiating functions defined implicitly. Participants are exploring the differentiation of a function z in terms of variables x and y, particularly focusing on the treatment of z during differentiation.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants are questioning whether z should be treated as a constant or a function of x and y during differentiation. There are attempts to clarify the notation and the implications of the implicit function theorem on differentiating z.

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Some participants have provided expressions for derivatives and are verifying the correctness of their methods. There is an ongoing exploration of the differentiation process, with some guidance offered regarding the application of the implicit function theorem.

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There is a focus on ensuring precise notation and understanding the conditions under which the implicit function theorem applies. Participants are also considering the implications of their expressions for derivatives in the context of the given equation.

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if z was solved in terms of x, y, then when we differenciate d (dz/dx) / dx, are we treating z as a constant or still a function of x, y ?
 
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Have a bit more precise notation!

Now, for the equation F(x,y,z)=0, the implicit function theorem states that under relatively mild conditions, there exists a function Z(x,y), so that F(x,y,Z(x,y))=0 holds IDENTICALLY in an open region about a solution of F(x,y,z)=0.

We may find the expression for dZ/dx and d(dZ/dx)/dx by differentiatiang our identity with respect to x.
 
so if I was to differenciate d(dZ/dx) / dx for F(x, y, z) = e^z + (x - z) * y - 4 = 0

i'd do: dz/dx = - (dF/dx) / (dF/dz) = - y * (e^z - y)^-1

then d (dz/dx) / dx = y * (e^z-y)^-2 * e^z * (dz/dx)

is that correct ?
 
Assuming your expressions for the derivatives are correct, then you are correct since your method is correct. :smile:
 

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