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The discussion centers on the properties of a sawtooth wave function defined over a specific interval. The function is periodic, with f(x+nP)=f(x) indicating that values repeat after each period. The interval notation [a, a+P) excludes the endpoint a+P to avoid ambiguity in the function's definition, as including it would lead to multiple values for f(1). The graph suggests that f(1) could equal 1, but by definition, f(1) is actually 0, highlighting a discontinuity. Including the endpoint would create confusion and contradict the function's periodic nature.
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For a sawtooth wave function with a period of P where the first branch of the function is given for [a, a+P) we can say that :

f(x)=some expression in x for [a, a+P)

f(x+nP)=f(x)

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Why is 'a+P' not included in the x-interval? Wouldn't f(x) equal 1 if x was 1? What would happen if 'a+P' was included in the interval?

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We have that f(a+P)=f(a). So knowing the value of f(a) means that we also know the value of f(a+P). So there is no need to include a+P.
 
micromass said:
We have that f(a+P)=f(a). So knowing the value of f(a) means that we also know the value of f(a+P). So there is no need to include a+P.

The graph in my textbook has a straight line branch between x=0 and x=1 that repeats itself indefinitely. The highest Y equals 1. For [0,1) the output from f is given as f(x)=x.

So if x is 0.5 then f(x) is 0.5. What is f(x) if x=1?
 
If f(0) = 0, and the function is periodic with period 1, then f(1) = 0 also.
 
SammyS said:
If f(0) = 0, and the function is periodic with period 1, then f(1) = 0 also.

From the book:

"f(x+1)=f(x) for [0,1)

For example, f(1.5)=f(0.5+1)=f(0.5)=0.5"

Period here is 1. y=1 when x=1 on the graph. Does it mean that x=1 is undefined or something?
 
f(1)=f(0)=0.
 
solve said:
From the book:

"f(x+1)=f(x) for [0,1)

For example, f(1.5)=f(0.5+1)=f(0.5)=0.5"

Period here is 1. y=1 when x=1 on the graph. Does it mean that x=1 is undefined or something?
It may look like y=1 when x=1, however y only gets very close to 1 when x gets very close to 1.

f(0.999995) = 0.999995 , f(0.99999999993) = 0.99999999993 , f(1) = 0
 
micromass said:
f(1)=f(0)=0.

f(1)=0 if you go by definition, f(1)=1 if you go by the picture of the graph. Too confusing.
 
SammyS said:
It may look like y=1 when x=1, however y only gets very close to 1 when x gets very close to 1.

f(0.999995) = 0.999995 , f(0.99999999993) = 0.99999999993 , f(1) = 0

So what would happen if I were to include 1 in the interval?
 
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solve said:
f(1)=0 if you go by definition, f(1)=1 if you go by the picture of the graph. Too confusing.

The picture of the graph is wrong. On several points. For example, that line straight down doesn't happen, you just have a discontinuity


solve said:
So what would happen if I were to include 1 in the interval?

You can't. If you include 1, then f(1) would have multiple definitions, this is not good.
 
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