Question about stress and strain of a fiber

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The discussion revolves around the concepts of stress and strain in a fiber, particularly focusing on how changes in diameter relate to applied forces and material properties. The subject area includes mechanics of materials and material science.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

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  • Participants explore the relationship between applied stress and changes in diameter, questioning the assumptions about applied loads. Some express confusion over the calculations involving shear stress and Young's modulus, while others seek clarification on the meaning of certain variables used in the calculations.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants raising concerns about the lack of specified applied loads in the problem statement. Some have attempted calculations but express uncertainty about their correctness. There is a notable emphasis on clarifying definitions and relationships between different types of stress and strain.

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Participants highlight that the problem statement does not specify an applied load, which is critical for determining stress and strain accurately. There is also confusion regarding the interpretation of certain variables in the calculations presented.

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Homework Statement


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i can not find the N.
what i can only found is:
D0=0.02mm;V=0.25;E=10G Pa;A=π(0.02mm/2)2
ΔD=εshear×D0
εshearaxial×V
εaxialaxial / E
σaxial=N/A

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I don't see anything in the question about a tension being applied, so why should it change diameter?
 
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stressShear= E×I
R=0.01mm,E=10GPa, I0= (π/4)×(0.01×10(-3))4=7.85 zm4
Stressshear=(10×109×7.85×10-21)
=78.5p Pa

Shear modulus=E/[2(1+V)] = 10G/[2(1+0.25)]=4GPa
Shear modulus= Stressshearshear
εshear=78.5p/4G=19.625z

ΔD=εshear×D0
=19.625z×0.02m
=0.3925y m
Is it right?
 
billy722 said:
stressShear= E×I
R=0.01mm,E=10GPa, I0= (π/4)×(0.01×10(-3))4=7.85 zm4
Stressshear=(10×109×7.85×10-21)
=78.5p Pa

Shear modulus=E/[2(1+V)] = 10G/[2(1+0.25)]=4GPa
Shear modulus= Stressshearshear
εshear=78.5p/4G=19.625z

ΔD=εshear×D0
=19.625z×0.02m
=0.3925y m
Is it right?
You seem to be using the given Young's modulus as though it is the applied stress. They happen to have the same dimension, pressure, but they are not the same thing. Specifically, the modulus is that stress which would, in theory, double the wire's length.
If the problem statement does not specify an applied load then there is no way to answer it.

Even then, I am unable to follow the rest of your calculation. Not sure what all those ys and zs mean. It makes no sense that the change in diameter can be 20 times the initial diameter.
 
Stressshear=E×I=F/A
V=strainshear/strainaxial
⇒strainshear=Vχstrainaxial=ΔD/D0
⇒ΔD=D0χVχStrainaxial
=D0χVχ(stressaxial/E)
=D0χVχ(1/E)χ(FχA)
F in shear and F in axial are same?
 
However, I calculate out 3.925*10^-26 again
I think that's wrong
 
billy722 said:
Stressshear=E×I=F/A
V=strainshear/strainaxial
⇒strainshear=Vχstrainaxial=ΔD/D0
⇒ΔD=D0χVχStrainaxial
=D0χVχ(stressaxial/E)
=D0χVχ(1/E)χ(FχA)
F in shear and F in axial are same?
haruspex said:
If the problem statement does not specify an applied load then there is no way to answer it.
haruspex said:
If the problem statement does not specify an applied load then there is no way to answer it.
haruspex said:
If the problem statement does not specify an applied load then there is no way to answer it.
haruspex said:
If the problem statement does not specify an applied load then there is no way to answer it.
haruspex said:
If the problem statement does not specify an applied load then there is no way to answer it.
Am I getting through?
 

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