Question about taking the difference between two square root expression

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The discussion centers on the derivation of an approximation for the difference between two square root expressions as presented in Ramakrishna's paper (http://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/1111/1111.1922.pdf). The key equation involves a Taylor Series expansion to first order in vΔt, leading to a simplified expression that captures the behavior of the square roots. Participants identified a potential typo regarding the presence of a 1/4 factor in the first square root, suggesting it may not be necessary for the correct application of Pythagorean principles in the context of satellite positioning.

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In Ramakrishna's paper, http://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/1111/1111.1922.pdf , he derived equation (9), page 5.

It is a difference of two square-roots using an approximation method. Can anyone help in how this is done?

Thanks
 
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Lets see - the equation would have been:

<br /> \frac{1}{c}\sqrt{<br /> H^2 + \frac{1}{4}\left ( <br /> \frac{D}{2}-v\Delta t<br /> \right )^2<br /> } - \frac{1}{c}\sqrt{<br /> H^2+\frac{D^2}{4}<br /> } \approx -\frac{1}{2}\frac{v \delta t}{c}\frac{D}{\sqrt{H^2 + \frac{D^2}{4}}}<br />

The text says this is "to first order in v\Delta t" ... which means he took the Taylor Series to first order, putting x=v\Delta t about x=0.

Taking the LHS for f(x), the 1st order Taylor approx is:

f(x) \approx f(0) + x{f^\prime}(0)

He just rewrote the delta-tee to emphasize it's small size.

I havn't actually crunched the numbers but it looks about the right shape - the deriverative gets you the -1/2 and pulls the vδt outside the root - putting the root itself in the denominator.
 
Simon Bridge said:
Lets see - the equation would have been:

<br /> \frac{1}{c}\sqrt{<br /> H^2 + \frac{1}{4}\left ( <br /> \frac{D}{2}-v\Delta t<br /> \right )^2<br /> } - \frac{1}{c}\sqrt{<br /> H^2+\frac{D^2}{4}<br /> } \approx -\frac{1}{2}\frac{v \delta t}{c}\frac{D}{\sqrt{H^2 + \frac{D^2}{4}}}<br />

The text says this is "to first order in v\Delta t" ... which means he took the Taylor Series to first order, putting x=v\Delta t about x=0.

Taking the LHS for f(x), the 1st order Taylor approx is:

f(x) \approx f(0) + x{f^\prime}(0)

He just rewrote the delta-tee to emphasize it's small size.

I havn't actually crunched the numbers but it looks about the right shape - the deriverative gets you the -1/2 and pulls the vδt outside the root - putting the root itself in the denominator.

Thanks, I appreciate.
 
I suspect that 1/4 in the first square root is not supposed to be there.
If you leave it off, then the zeroth order term vanishes at x=0 and

f^\prime (v\Delta t) = \frac{1}{c}\frac{1}{2}\left [ H^2 + \left ( \frac{D}{2} -v\Delta t \right )^2 \right ]^{-1/2} 2 \left ( \frac{D}{2} -v\Delta t \right ) (-1)

(Leaving it messy to show the working.) So the first order term, (v\delta t) f^\prime(0), comes out as shown.

Otherwise you end up with:

<br /> f(v\delta t) \approx <br /> <br /> \frac{1}{c}\sqrt{H^2 + \frac{1}{4}\frac{D^2}{4}} -<br /> \frac{1}{c}\sqrt{H^2 + \frac{D^2}{4}} -<br /> <br /> \frac{1}{8}\frac{v\delta t}{c}\frac{D}{\sqrt{H^2 + \frac{1}{4}\frac{D^2}{4}}}<br /> <br />

I have not found any reason for the division by 4 in the equation for PDsat-B(B:2) since it should just be the distance from B to the satellite (in position 2) by Pythagoras.
 
Indeed, the 1/4 in the PDsat-b(B:2) term is a typo error.

Thanks again
 

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