[Question] Did I figure out the Space Shuttle's momentum?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the calculation of the momentum of the Space Shuttle, focusing on the methodology and accuracy of the mathematical approach used by a beginner in physics. Participants explore concepts related to linear momentum, mass, and velocity, while also addressing the relevance of additional information provided by the original poster.

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Main Points Raised

  • The original poster presents a calculation for the momentum of the Space Shuttle, including mass and velocity values.
  • Some participants question the inclusion of certain details, such as distance to space and time taken to reach space, suggesting they are unnecessary for the momentum calculation.
  • There is a discussion about the importance of using the correct velocity for momentum calculations, particularly the tangential velocity during orbit.
  • Participants note a potential error in the mass calculation, with one suggesting that the orbiter's weight is less than a million pounds.
  • Clarifications are made regarding the distinction between mass and weight, although some participants argue that this distinction is not critical to the momentum calculation.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the accuracy of the original poster's calculations and the relevance of additional information provided. There is no consensus on the correctness of the mass values or the necessity of including certain details in the discussion.

Contextual Notes

Some participants point out that the original poster rounded numbers and may have miscalculated the total mass, but the specifics of these calculations remain unresolved. The discussion also highlights the importance of significant figures in scientific calculations.

TandN51316
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Please bare with me as I'm a beginner with this stuff, and am just learning lol But I was wondering if I did the right math to figure out the momentum of the Space Shuttle.

Linear Momentum, in classical mechanics, is the product of the mass (the measure of an objects resistance to acceleration when a net force is applied - not to be confused with weight) and velocity (the rate of change of an object's position with respect to a reference frame) of an object. It is 'dimensionally equivalent' (meaning length, mass, time, electric charge, and units of measurement such as miles, km, lbs and kgs) to impulse (the product of force and time, or essentially the result of a force applied over a specific amount of time). Linear momentum is a conserved quantity, meaning that is a closed system is not affected by external forces, its total linear momentum cannot/does not change.

Shuttle Mass-
4,470,000 pounds

SRB Mass (Both SRB's)-
1,300,000 pounds each

External Tank Mass (LOX and LH2)-
1,530,000 pounds

Total Mass-
7,300,000 pounds
(3,311,224 kilograms)

Distance to space-
62 Miles
(99,779 Meters)

Space Shuttle Orbital Velocity-
17,500 MPH
(28,163 KMH)

Time taken to get to space-
8 1/2 Minutes

Linear Momentum- (Product of mass and velocity)
127,750,000,000 pounds/93,254,001,512 kilogram-meters per second
 
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So what exactly is the question here that we are allowing you to "bare" with?

Zz.
 
Whether or not I did the right math to figure out the momentum of the Space Shuttle. I looked up the mass and velocity of the shuttle and multiplied them.
 
TandN51316 said:
Whether or not I did the right math to figure out the momentum of the Space Shuttle. I looked up the mass and velocity of the shuttle and multiplied them.

If all you wanted was the momentum of the space shuttle while in orbit, then yes, you use the tangential velocity during orbit, and multiply that with the mass. You might want to learn a bit about the concept of "significant figures" though.

I don't understand why you are including all the other unnecessary information, such as why are the distance to space and time taken to space included here?

Zz.
 
ZapperZ said:
If all you wanted was the momentum of the space shuttle while in orbit, then yes, you use the tangential velocity during orbit, and multiply that with the mass. You might want to learn a bit about the concept of "significant figures" though.

I don't understand why you are including all the other unnecessary information, such as why are the distance to space and time taken to space included here?

Zz.

I apologize, I kept that part in for another website I asked this question on and just forgot to remove it. And thank you for your time, glad to know I did the math right. Sorry if I was of any inconvenience, I just wanted to check if I was right or not.
 
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TandN51316 said:
...I just wanted to check if I was right or not.
...you added up (subtracted) the weight wrong...
 
russ_watters said:
...you added up (subtracted) the weight wrong...

How so? Where at? I just rounded the numbers down to the nearest million I forgot to include that.
 
TandN51316 said:
How so? Where at? I just rounded the numbers down to the nearest million I forgot to include that.
Yeah. The orbiter weighs a lot less than a million pounds.
 
russ_watters said:
Yeah. The orbiter weighs a lot less than a million pounds.

Yeah. Mass is different than weight.
 
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TandN51316 said:
Yeah. Mass is different than weight.
Edit: weight vs mass is not critical here. Please just try googling it again.
 
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ZapperZ said:
So what exactly is the question here that we are allowing you to "bare" with?

Zz.
I got as far as taking off my socks . . . . .
 
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