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The discussion revolves around identifying functions whose sixth and higher derivatives are identically zero. Participants are analyzing various functions to determine which satisfy the condition (f^k)(x) = 0 for all k >= 6, within the context of higher order derivatives.

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  • Some participants attempt to identify the correct function by evaluating the derivatives of the given options, while others express confusion regarding the interpretation of the problem, particularly the distinction between derivatives and powers of functions.

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There is an ongoing exploration of the functions listed, with some participants questioning their initial interpretations. Clarifications regarding the nature of derivatives versus exponentiation are being discussed, and guidance is being provided on how to approach the problem correctly.

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Participants note that the problem is situated within a chapter focused on higher order derivatives, and there is a misunderstanding about whether the question pertains to functions raised to a power or their derivatives.

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Homework Statement


Which of the following satisfy (f^k)(x) = 0 for all k >= 6?

a) f(x) = 7x^4 + 4 + x^-1
b) f(x) = sqrt(x)
c) f(x) = x^(9/5)
d) f(x) = x^3 - 2
e) f(x) = 1 - x^6
f) f(x) = 2x^2 + 3x^5

Homework Equations



None, but given as a problem in a chapter where the topic is higher order derivatives.

The Attempt at a Solution



I think the answer is e) but it's true for all k not just k>=6 and I don't know how finding the answer relates to higher order derivatives or how I'd use higher order derivatives to find the solution

k >= 6, for x = 1 & -1

(1-1)^k = 0
0^k = 0, lol

Edit: Hmmm maybe I'm reading the problem wrong? Is it asking which function is always = 0 for all x, and all k >= 6?
 
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physicsernaw said:

Homework Statement


Which of the following satisfy (f^k)(x) = 0 for all k >= 6?

a) f(x) = 7x^4 + 4 + x^-1
b) f(x) = sqrt(x)
c) f(x) = x^(9/5)
d) f(x) = x^3 - 2
e) f(x) = 1 - x^6
f) f(x) = 2x^2 + 3x^5

Homework Equations



None, but given as a problem in a chapter where the topic is higher order derivatives.

The Attempt at a Solution



I think the answer is e) but it's true for all k not just k>=6 and I don't know how finding the answer relates to higher order derivatives or how I'd use higher order derivatives to find the solution

k >= 6, for x = 1 & -1

(1-1)^k = 0
0^k = 0, lol

You misunderstand the problem. The kth derivative is supposed to be identically zero (zero for ALL values of x, not just some). What's the 6th derivative of 1-x^6?
 
physicsernaw said:

Homework Statement


Which of the following satisfy (f^k)(x) = 0 for all k >= 6?

a) f(x) = 7x^4 + 4 + x^-1
b) f(x) = sqrt(x)
c) f(x) = x^(9/5)
d) f(x) = x^3 - 2
e) f(x) = 1 - x^6
f) f(x) = 2x^2 + 3x^5

Homework Equations



None, but given as a problem in a chapter where the topic is higher order derivatives.

The Attempt at a Solution



I think the answer is e) but it's true for all k not just k>=6 and I don't know how finding the answer relates to higher order derivatives or how I'd use higher order derivatives to find the solution

k >= 6, for x = 1 & -1

(1-1)^k = 0
0^k = 0, lol
That doesn't make sense. These are supposed to be higher-order derivatives, not functions raised to an exponent. For choice (e), the 1st derivative (k = 1) is
[itex]f'(x) = -6x^5[/itex],
which is clearly not zero.

The question is, for which function(s) will the sixth- and higher-order derivatives be zero?
When is
[itex]f^{(6)}(x) = 0, f^{(7)}(x) = 0, f^{(8)}(x) = 0[/itex]
(and so on)?
 
Ohhh. I thought the question was asking for f to the kth power, not the kth derivative of f

XD

Thanks.
 

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