Question on Surface Integral and Flux

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The problem involves calculating the magnetic flux through a rectangular plane in a uniform magnetic field. The magnetic field is specified to be 2.0 T along the y-axis, and the plane is defined by specific coordinate points in a three-dimensional space.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss how to determine the direction of the surface area vector for the plane defined by the given points. There are suggestions to use linear algebra concepts, such as constructing vectors from the points and finding a perpendicular vector using the cross product.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively exploring methods to identify the normal vector to the surface. Some guidance has been provided regarding the use of the cross product to find a perpendicular vector, and there is acknowledgment of the existence of two normals for any plane.

Contextual Notes

There is an emphasis on ensuring that the vectors used in the cross product are not parallel or antiparallel. Participants are also considering the implications of the magnetic field's direction in relation to the surface area vector.

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Homework Statement


I have a coordinate system, (x,y,z). There is a uniform-magnetic-field of 2.0 T that exists along
the direction of the y-axis. There is a rectangular plane bounded by the points
(3,0,0),(0,1,0),(0,1,1),(3,0,1).
Calculate how much flux is traveling through the rectangular plane.

Homework Equations


Flux = B (dot) A (dot) d

The Attempt at a Solution


Since the rectangular plane is not changing, the magnetic-field is just dotted with the surface. And this surface is composed of the dot product of the Area and the Direction.

I can easily find the area, but I don't know how to find the direction.

What do I do with the information that tells me the B-field exists along the y-axis?
 
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Time to brush up on your linear algebra! From the points defining the plane you can construct two vectors that lie in the plane. Then think about how you might construct a vector that's perpendicular to them both.
 
Would I compare triangles in the xy-plane?
 
Loppyfoot said:
Would I compare triangles in the xy-plane?
Nope. Review the cross product operation and what it gives you.
 
Alright, so the corss product of two vectors will give me a vector that is perpendicular to the plane (which is in the direction that I want).

I'm not sure what these vectors would be? How do I know what vectors to cross?
 
Any two vectors that lie in the plane should do, except if they're parallel (or antiparallel).
 
Could I use, (3,-1,0)x(0,0,-1)?
 
Loppyfoot said:
Could I use, (3,-1,0)x(0,0,-1)?
Yes, you could. See where that takes you. Beware of the fact that there are two normals to any plane (opposite directions).
 

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