Questioning "Proof" of Past Life on Mars Found Through Rocks on Earth

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The discussion centers around skepticism regarding claims of proof for past life on Mars based on rocks found on Earth. Participants explore the validity of such claims, the capabilities of Mars rovers, and the implications of scientific communication in this context.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses skepticism about the validity of proof for past life on Mars derived from Earth rocks, questioning whether real evidence should originate from Mars itself.
  • Another participant critiques the notion of being "very close" to proving life on Mars, comparing it to the unlikely chance of winning the lottery, suggesting that such statements may be more about public relations than scientific certainty.
  • A participant inquires about the capabilities of Mars rovers to capture microscopic images of rocks that could potentially show fossilized bacteria.
  • It is noted that the upcoming Mars Science Laboratory rover will have advanced tools, such as a chemical laser and spectrographs, which may provide more direct analysis of Martian materials than relying on Earth-based samples.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus; there are competing views regarding the validity of the claims about Martian life and the reliability of Earth-found rocks as evidence.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight uncertainties regarding the provenance of the rocks and the potential for misinterpretation of features as evidence of life. There is also a discussion about the limitations of current methods for proving the existence of past life on Mars.

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I'm skeptical of "proof" of past life on Mars as as result of rocks found on Earth.

I'm skeptical of "proof" of past life on Mars as a result of rocks found on Earth.


http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/285660"


Wouldn't real proof be found on the planet? I thought these Martian rocks were discredited years ago.


Anyone care to shed more light on the topic?
 
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McKay told the website Spaceflight Now that while his team has not officially found proof of life on Mars, that they are 'very, very close to proving there is or has been life there'
And while I haven't won the lottery yet - I'm very very close to winning it this week.

You could prove there had been life on Mars from these rocks, although you would have a job proving that the rock came from Mars and any features weren't a record of some life on Earth that is now extinct - but to say we haven't found anything yet so we are very close is a bit PR spin.
 


I suspect the answer is "no" but do the rovers have the capability of taking microscopic photos of the rocks they encounter? Shots that might demonstrate the same fossilized bacteria?
 


The Mars Science Laboratory rover is scheduled to launch in the fall of 2011. It will feature a chemical laser that can vaporize the surfaces of rocks, and spectrographs that can analyze the released gases from distances raging from 4-30 feet. That's a whole lot less speculative than studying "Mars rocks" found on Earth.
 

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