Questions about the Differential Equation (Dacay)

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The discussion revolves around determining the decay-rate parameter for radioactive isotopes, specifically Carbon-14 and Iodine-131, using their half-lives. The subject area includes differential equations and exponential decay concepts.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants explore the relationship between half-life and decay constant, with some attempting to derive the decay constant from the differential equation dx/dt = -bx. Questions arise regarding the interpretation of initial conditions and the meaning of variables.

Discussion Status

There is ongoing exploration of the mathematical relationships involved, with some participants providing insights into the integration of the differential equation. However, confusion persists regarding initial conditions and the interpretation of the quantity x at time zero.

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Participants are grappling with assumptions about initial quantities and the implications of setting x0 to zero, which may lead to misunderstandings in the context of decay processes.

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The half-life of a radioactive isotope is the amount of time it takes for a quantity
of radioactive material to decay to one-half of its original amount.
i) The half-life of Carbon 14 (C-14) is 5230 years. Determine the decay-rate
parameter  for C − 14.
ii)The half-life of Iodine 131 (I-131) is 8 days. Determine the decay-rate param-
eter for I − 131.

Homework Equations



dx/dt = -bx where b is a constant


The Attempt at a Solution



i) let x(t) be the quantity of radionactuve meterial at time t in year and dx/dt be the rate of change of the quantity.

dx/dt = -bx where b is a constant

I dun no how to process after doing this assumption. Please help to give some hints on doing these questions. Many thanks!
 
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Let's let t_{1/2}=5230\,\text{yr} be the half-life of C-14. What does this mean? Well, if at some initial time t_0 the total quantity of C-14 is x_0=x(t_0), then after an additional time t_{1/2} the amount of carbon remaining is x_0/2; algebraically, x(t_0+t_{1/2})=x_0/2.

The decay constant \lambda, instead of specifying how long it takes for the quantity to halve, tells you the rate of change of the percent change in quantity. That's a mouthful. So, what does that mean? Well, consider the same quantities x_0 and t_0 as before. How much carbon is left after an infinitesimal time dt? Let's go take a look at our (verbal) definition for the decay constant: "percent change in quantity" means dx/x(t) (remember that dx=x(t+dt)-x(t)), and the "rate of change" of this is [dx/x(t)]/dt. Thus, the decay constant is given algebraically by
\lambda=-\frac{dx}{dt}\frac{1}{x(t)}.​

Can you think of a way of incorporating these to find \lambda for C-14?
 
t0 =0, x0 = 0
When t = 5230, then I dun no how to find the X=?
then can't find the lambda?
 
Starting with dx/dt = -bx, "separate" the variables by separating the derivative into differentials: dx= -bx dt so dx/x= -bdt. Integrate both sides: \int dx/x= -b\int dt.
 
that means lambda is dx/dt, right?

As u said, I do the calculation and find the follow
ln|x| = -bt +C where C is a constant

then what should I do?

Can u explain more details?
 
mybingbinghk said:
t0 =0, x0 = 0
When t = 5230, then I dun no how to find the X=?
then can't find the lambda?

Why do you think that x0=0?
 
I think if the time is zero, there is no decay so x is equal to ZERO
 
mybingbinghk said:
I think if the time is zero, there is no decay so x is equal to ZERO

Ahah! There's your problem. The value x measures the quantity remaining, not the quantity which has been removed.
 

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