Radioactive Decay: A Problem in Differential Equations

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The discussion revolves around a problem related to radioactive decay, specifically focusing on the decay of lead and bismuth as products of uranium decay. The original poster presents a differential equation model to describe the decay process and seeks validation of their approach and equations.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to formulate differential equations for the decay of lead and bismuth, questioning the correctness of their derived equation for Bismuth. They also inquire about solving for constants based on initial conditions.
  • Some participants question the necessity of knowing the initial amount of uranium to accurately determine the amount of lead produced, suggesting a need for clarity on mass conservation in beta decay.
  • Others clarify that the focus is on the decay of lead and bismuth, rather than uranium itself.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different aspects of the problem. Some guidance has been offered regarding the assumptions and relationships between the isotopes, but no consensus has been reached on the correctness of the equations or the approach taken by the original poster.

Contextual Notes

There is a mention of initial values for lead and bismuth, but the role of uranium in the decay process and its initial quantity remains a point of contention. The discussion reflects uncertainty regarding the assumptions made in the problem setup.

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I've been working with this problem for almost two weeks trying to find a good equation for the decay of Bismuth to no avail.

Can someone give me insightful comments:

Here's the problem:


Homework Statement



In the radioactive decay series of Uranium (238, 92), isotopes of lead, bismuth occur as products of two successive Beta decays with half -lives of 19.7 minutes and 26.8 minutes, respectively.

U --> Lead --> Bismuth

Decays are each proportional to the amount of isotope present.
Assume initially at time =0, we have 100 mg of lead and 150 mg of bismuth?

We are asked to find the amount of lead and bismuth at any time?

Homework Equations



So first we have to formulate a DE for the decay.

The one equation for Lead is simple.

Let L(t) be the amount of lead at any time, then the DE model is:

dL/dt = -a.L​
(a: constant of decay)

after integration and get L(t) = 100.e^(-a.t)

Using the Initial Value Problem and half-life value we get an equation:
L(t)= 100.e^(-.035185.t)

Now the Differential Equation for Bismuth is: (B(t): the amount of Bismuth at any time)

dB/dt= -b.B + a.L​
(a.L: quantity of lead decayed added to the Bismuth which equals 100.e^(-.035185.t)) and b: constant of decay for Bismuth

Solving this 1st Order DE we get:

[100.e^(-.035185.t) + C.100.e^(-b.t)]​
B(t)= _____________________________________
[b -.035]​


C is a constant of integration.

First: Is my B(t) equation correct based on the problem we have?

And second, how can I solve for b and C based on the IVP I have?

Can you guys help?

thx :)
 
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shouldn't we need to know how much uranium there is to know how much lead is created from the decay of uranium? i don't think there is loss of mass in beta decay, so the conversion is 1:1.
 
xaos said:
shouldn't we need to know how much uranium there is to know how much lead is created from the decay of uranium? i don't think there is loss of mass in beta decay, so the conversion is 1:1.

Actually what we are studying here is the decay of both Lead and Bismuth.

The Uranium is mentioned here to give an idea that both isotopes are derived from Ur. :)
 
O Come on guys, is this such a difficult problem?
 

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