Questions Regarding Definition of One-to-One and Onto Functions?

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The discussion focuses on the definitions of one-to-one and onto functions. A function T is one-to-one if distinct inputs map to distinct outputs, meaning if T(u,v) equals T(u',v'), then (u,v) must equal (u',v'). The onto definition states that for every point in the codomain, there exists a corresponding point in the domain that maps to it, which is not true for all functions, as illustrated by the example of f(x) = x^2. Clarifications were made regarding the implications of the definitions, particularly the distinction between pairs of points and their mappings. Overall, the conversation aims to clarify common misconceptions about these fundamental concepts in mathematics.
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Hi, I was just having a little trouble of understanding what it... is saying, well first I'll state what my book says the definition is:

A function T:D* \subseteq R2 → R2 is called one-to-one if for each (u,v) and (u',v') in D*, T(u,v)=T(u',v') implies that u = u' and v = v'

A function T:D* \subseteq R2 → R2 is called onto D if for every point (x,y) \in D there is a point (u,v) in D* such that T(u,v) = (x,y)

So just a couple of questions (they might be stupid... sorry):

1. Now correct me if I'm wrong but the function T, is supposed to bring a domain in D* to D right? So isn't there a problem that there are two points, (u,v), and (u',v') that goes to the same point?

2. Isn't the definition for a function to be onto, is a definition for all functions? Because that's what a function does right? f(x) = y, you put x in, and it gives you "y"
 
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RadiantL said:
Hi, I was just having a little trouble of understanding what it... is saying, well first I'll state what my book says the definition is:

A function T:D* \subseteq R2 → R2 is called one-to-one if for each (u,v) and (u',v') in D*, T(u,v)=T(u',v') implies that u = u' and v = v'

A function T:D* \subseteq R2 → R2 is called onto D if for every point (x,y) \in D there is a point (u,v) in D* such that T(u,v) = (x,y)

So just a couple of questions (they might be stupid... sorry):

1. Now correct me if I'm wrong but the function T, is supposed to bring a domain in D* to D right? So isn't there a problem that there are two points, (u,v), and (u',v') that goes to the same point?

No, there is no problem...but THAT function won't be 1-1 then
2. Isn't the definition for a function to be onto, is a definition for all functions? Because that's what a function does right? f(x) = y, you put x in, and it gives you "y"

No. For example, the function \,f:\Bbb R\to\Bbb R\,\,\,,\,\,f(x)=x^2\, isn't onto as no negative number is the square or no real number.

DonAntonio
 
Hmm I think I see... i still have one more question regarding the first definition, it seems to talk about (u,v) being different from (u',v') but then at the end of the definition it says they are equal?

If you look in D* and T is one-to-one and find a (u1,v1) and then a (u3,v3) aren't they for sure different? When the definition generalizes it to just a u and v and u' and v' doesn't it say that all u's and v's are the same?
 

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