Quick angular measurement question about moon. Thanks

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The discussion centers on calculating the angular size of the moon using its diameter and distance from Earth. The formula used is 57.3 x do/d, where do is the diameter of the moon and d is the distance to it. The calculation provided yields an angular size of approximately 0.53 degrees, which is confirmed as correct. However, there is confusion regarding the origin of the 57.3 conversion factor, which is clarified as being derived from the relationship between radians and degrees. The explanation emphasizes that 1 radian equals 57.3 degrees, and the method of measuring angles with radial lines is more straightforward than the ruler analogy presented.
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**Quick angular measurement question about moon. Thanks!

I am suppose to write a calculation on finding angular measurement of the moon. Does the following make sense, and is correct?

Now let’s try to figure out the angular size of the moon. Let's say we are given data that states the moon has a diameter of 3476 kmm and is located 384,400 km from the earth. Now, let's take this equation step by step.

Our Equation will ultimately read: 57.3 x do/d
Now let's plug in out data points that have already been given to us: 57.3 x 3476/384,400 = 0.53 degrees.

First, how did we get 57.3 ? Well, if you hold a ruler at arm’s length and measure the apparent size of the moon, it will measure around 7 mm, (depending on variables). Now, using the measuring apparatus we will determine the distance from the end of your thumb to the top of your shoulder (eye position). Let's use 760 mm as our distance. Now we divide our data points (7mm and 760mm) and get a estimated radians number or 0.0092 radians, which will convert into roughly 57.3 degrees.

Now let's calculate:
57.3 x 3476/384,400 = 0.52 degrees (Rounded up from 0.518)
 
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nukeman said:
Does the following make sense

Not entirely.

nukeman said:
, and is correct?

Your result is correct, yes. But I'm not convinced that you understand why.


nukeman said:
Our Equation will ultimately read: 57.3 x do/d
Now let's plug in out data points that have already been given to us: 57.3 x 3476/384,400 = 0.53 degrees.

Assuming that do is supposed to be the physical diameter of the moon, and d is the distance to it, then yes this is the correct formula for the angular size, and since those are the values you plugged in, you got the right answer.

nukeman said:
First, how did we get 57.3 ? Well, if you hold a ruler at arm’s length and measure the apparent size of the moon, it will measure around 7 mm, (depending on variables). Now, using the measuring apparatus we will determine the distance from the end of your thumb to the top of your shoulder (eye position). Let's use 760 mm as our distance. Now we divide our data points (7mm and 760mm) and get a estimated radians number or 0.0092 radians, which will convert into roughly 57.3 degrees.

This is convoluted and some parts of it are just wrong. For example, 0.0092 radians is not 57.3 degrees. ONE radian is 57.3 degrees. THAT's why the 57.3 appears in the formula for the angular size -- as a conversion factor from radians to degrees.

Let me refresh your memory on how we measure angles. You can imagine drawing a radial line straight from the observer to one end of the object (in this case the moon). Then you can imagine drawing another radial line from the observer to the other end of the object. Going from one line to another, you sweep out a circular arc (a portion of a circle), since the two radii have the same length. Let's call the length of this circular arc 's', and the radial distance 'r.' The definition of the angle θ between the two lines is θ = s/r. When defined in this way, angles are measured in units of radians, which are dimensionless units (since the angles are defined as a ratio of two lengths). I've drawn a diagram to help illustrate what I mean. NOTE: using the symbols you used, s = do and r = d.

http://img844.imageshack.us/img844/9489/radian.th.png

In the diagram, the two radial lines and the circular arc they cover make up a sort of pie-shaped wedge. Now, clearly, to cover an angle of 1 radian, the arc length s would have to be equal to the radius r. In that case, the pie-shaped wedge would be very close in shape to an equilateral triangle (since two sides have length r, and the third "side", which is curved, also has length r). Therefore, you would expect θ to be close to 60 degrees, but not quite. As it happens, θ = 57.3 degrees. So 1 radian = 57.3 degrees. THAT's where the 57.3 comes from. You don't need any of this nonsense about rulers and whatnot.

Since my argument about an equilateral triangle doesn't give an exact answer, I should point out that the way to get the exact conversion factor is as follows: when you sweep out a full circle, this corresponds to an angle of 2π radians. Hence, 2π radians = 360 degrees, or

1 radian = 360 degrees / 2π = 57.3 degrees.
 
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